12V chemistry isn't really a solved issue, but it's a necessity. The problem with substituting it with anything else is that nothing can endure high and low temperatures like lead acid. It's regularly 70C/160F under the hood of a car, and a car should still start up at -20C/0F. Especially if you also need to be able to supply cranking amps, the only solution that is even remotely available is lead acid.

Almost all replacements have severe limitations. For instance, a capacity-equivalent LFP equivalent can't supply cranking amps over its temperature range and is limited to +55C storage/+45C operational. Cost-equivalent LFP isn't even close to large enough for even an EV and its idle loads.

Most other chemistries aren't voltage compatible. Most li-ion in 3S configurations has a top voltage that's too low (12.6V), most other alkaline rechargeables also aren't quite compatible with the ~14.4V charge voltag eand ~10.6V low-voltage cutoff. LFP 4S will survive but is still beaten during bulk charge (to fix that it needs a bleed-off circuit, or you have to be happy to lose cycles).

Rock and a hard place.

At least an EV doesn't pull as many amps, so LFP is an option, but it's still very expensive for the capacity and not quite a drop-in replacement.

Proper solutions to all of this exist and have for decades, but nobody's even attempting to use them. The best we've got now is always-on dc/dc converters, which are extremely wasteful and make the cars more dangerous to work on.
 

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When will you have access to Tesla Superchargers?
Maybe never? I have a Chevy and GM told us we'd have access in spring 2024, which ended a few days ago. If you generously extend it to the second three months of 2024, it ends in two days.

There's no word on when they'll open it up. GM is saying it will be "as soon as possible" but won't say what the holdup is. Neither will Tesla, which suggests to me that they're bound by a confidentiality agreement and can't talk about negotiations publicly. So it's an impasse over some technical detail that one side or the other or both see as disadvantaging their business.

But as for now, having access to the Tesla Superchargers is not a big issue for most of us because most DCFS are CCS.
 

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There's no word on when they'll open it up. GM is saying it will be "as soon as possible" but won't say what the holdup is. Neither will Tesla, which suggests to me that they're bound by a confidentiality agreement and can't talk about negotiations publicly. So it's an impasse over some technical detail that one side or the other or both see as disadvantaging their business.

How many of Tesla's supercharger team went back? If they're functionally unstaffed, well, I wouldn't hold your breath
 

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How many of Tesla's supercharger team went back? If they're functionally unstaffed, well, I wouldn't hold your breath
Sure, and it calls into question GM's, and others' plans to switch over to making cars with NACS connectors, because the vast majority of NACS stations are Tesla Superchargers.

And it hurts future GM customers more than current owners. Current owners just use CCS. Future owners will need an adapter for CCS. If this goes on much longer, we could have GM suing Tesla for breach of contract or not even that - a reliance based suit for damages to EV sales.
 
Regardless of the Supercharger network NACS is the future for all OEMs. It's a better connector, even given the added complexity on the vehicle side.
In at least some states the NEVI chargers are required to have SAE J3400/NACS in addition to the Fed-mandated CCS.

Texas and Washington off the top of my head - I know there are more, but I'm not finding a full list.
 

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So, I'm in a rental house for the next ~2 years and no longer have a level 2 charger at home. I have the BMW portable flexible fast charger (IC-CPD), which works with L1 and L2 charging, but I'll be stuck with L1 off an external outlet on a 15 amp breaker. Nearest outlet would require ~10 feet of extension cord. Would a short 12 gauge, SJTW, 15A rated cord suffice? There'd be no coil in the cord while in use.

(My mileage is low enough that L1 will more than cover my charging needs)
 

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I just picked up the EV9. I'll do a full write-up in a couple of days after it goes through a charge cycle or two, but so far, it's an amazing car with everything I want in a family vehicle. It's comfortable, quick, loaded with safety and convenience features, and engaging to drive.

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I think anything you think is sufficient for a hair dryer is good enough to use. In the US probably any orange "outdoor rated" extension cord for >$10 is good enough.
I have mistakenly bought a "light duty" orange "outdoor" electrical cord that was only 14 AWG. I have to be careful where I use it.
 
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I think anything you think is sufficient for a hair dryer is good enough to use. In the US probably any orange "outdoor rated" extension cord for >$10 is good enough.
A hair dryer is used for a few minutes at a time. A EV charging may draw 12A for 5 days.


While the wire can do it the connections in the plugs are usually the weak points. 8/10 gauge cords puts you into commercial quality stuff which isn't normally made like absolute garbage like a $3 cord you can buy at target to plug a lamp in behind a bed.


It's a few bucks to not maybe start a fire and it's going to run cooler anyway.


The color of the cord means nothing.
 

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But it's also helpful to just look at your particular use case and see if you can't get by with a granny charger. In 240V land that's still 2.3kW you can use to charge, or about 20kWh overnight. That covers 99%+ of commutes in the Netherlands.

I picked up the car a week ago and finally drove enough that the charge down was down to 70% so I got to test the home charging situation.

It seems there is a separate breaker for the garage and casita and it is rated at 25A. So to play it safe, I left the max amp for 10A and did a test charge. So far so good. Got 5% in about 90 minutes. I may bump up the max amp. Volvo recommends 80% of the max rated but that seems high, but perhaps not.

Anyhow, even at the 10A limit, the prior concern seems like a non-issue and I have no idea what land lady was going on about, maybe there was a miscommunication. Highly likely given the language barrier. Which is good because so far it has been a bit tricky to get signed up for some of the charging networks as wait on my local bank's debit card to arrive.

As for the XC40. It is great. Perfectly happy and no complaints.