I have seen multiple Cybertrucks missing that piece in the wild.
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I have seen multiple Cybertrucks missing that piece in the wild.
Hopefully that cash investment also comes with access to manufacturing scale-up expertise.
That's great news. My R2 reservation was more of a token gesture hoping they stayed in business long enough.
Last week we saw one drive by.. and my wife went.. "WTF is that, it's damn ugly!"
I'm still a couple of years out on an EV. My current vehicle has life left in it, and I'm the type that runs them until they become a maintenance/reliability problem. Timing wise, I put in a reservation for an R2. When that's available, I'll probably pull the trigger.
I have a trip back home that I make on average 2-3 times a year, and that trip has me running through central MO/AR. As you can guess, charging station availability in that area sucks. The big/ugly gap is between Springfield, MO and Jonesboro, AR. Looking at ABRP I'd be charging up to 92-94% depending on the time of year to make sure that I'm at 10% when I get to the end of that segment. This is with prelim R2 data (similar for R1S/R1T).
My question is, how uncomfortable would folks be with that kind of gap? Right now there are two routes between those cities. The fast one has no reliable charging in the middle. The slower one (add 45 minutes) has a charger that would make it a lot less sketchy.
I have a trip back home that I make on average 2-3 times a year, and that trip has me running through central MO/AR. As you can guess, charging station availability in that area sucks. The big/ugly gap is between Springfield, MO and Jonesboro, AR. Looking at ABRP I'd be charging up to 92-94% depending on the time of year to make sure that I'm at 10% when I get to the end of that segment. This is with prelim R2 data (similar for R1S/R1T).
My question is, how uncomfortable would folks be with that kind of gap? Right now there are two routes between those cities. The fast one has no reliable charging in the middle. The slower one (add 45 minutes) has a charger that would make it a lot less sketchy.
I’d wait until you are at the point of buying the EV to check.
edit: because of how nevi is a grant system, it is still percolating through the state processes, and will hopefully see a lot of building happen “soon”.
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LOL, I just noticed this on the web page for the Subaru Solterra:
Apparently, they're crowing about undercutting their supplier/manufacturing partner on their sibling model. Seems an odd bit of positioning.
Apparently, they're crowing about undercutting their supplier/manufacturing partner on their sibling model. Seems an odd bit of positioning.
I see a 50 kW CCS charger in West Plains but this route is surprisingly barren. In my choice of EV, the Renault Scenic LR, I can do that stretch with 21% left limiting myself to 100 kph. Seems doable.
Hopefully in a few years there are a few more backup options. I see some Charge Point chargers sprinkled here and there, good for emergency but too slow for a quick boost. You want a 100+ kW CCS port every 100ish km, so 2 more along the way.
Yea, NEVI has been excruciatingly slow. There are just so many steps with required timeframes.
Yep. A “good enough” first location planning pass could have been done in a week with cs101 level work. Then a bit of data work on road utilization. Then build. Then do a second pass. But it wouldn’t have been optimal, thus someone would call it wasteful, and Americans get upset over perceived government waste. So instead we waste lots of money to ensure we aren’t wasting money.
Thus, at some point in the next couple of years highway gaps will close, thus don’t research routes until close to relevancy.
It also would have required the Feds to actually administer the program instead of handing it off to the States with the requirement that each State come up with a unique implementation plan, then Fed review/approval/revision requests, then public comment, etc, etc.
I can think of many different ways nevi could have been done with a goal of fast results, both with feds administering and states administering. But I’m lazy so
Far too much ink has been spilled on its aesthetics already, but I think it's pretty telling that my sci-fi obsessed 9 year-old son refers to it as the "Stupidtruck" every time we see one.
They're desperate to move inventory. Notice they're also offering an insane 0% APR at 72 months.
I'm not sure that's completely unusual. My Ford Escape I bought in 2022 had the same thing from Ford.
Ford couldn't keep cars on the lot, at the time. Maybe the financing was just a lagging thing, but even getting the one we got was a challenge.
We've got a road trip coming up next week dit a down south getaway with a few friends. We've been tasked with dinner for the first night. I'm very tempted to prepare something in the slow cooker in the morning, and just keep it plugged in in the car for the drive down. Arriving with a steaming hot pot of casserole for the start of what looks like it will be a very cold winter weekend away will probably be a big winner.
I'll use V2L in the EV9 for that after it arrives.
We go to many family get-togethers, and plugging in a slow cooker will be a time saver for some things. I make a buffalo chicken dip; I could pull the meat off the rotisserie chickens, shred it, add it with the other ingredients, and have it all heat up, melt the cheeses, and combine while I drive.
We go to many family get-togethers, and plugging in a slow cooker will be a time saver for some things. I make a buffalo chicken dip; I could pull the meat off the rotisserie chickens, shred it, add it with the other ingredients, and have it all heat up, melt the cheeses, and combine while I drive.
The bonus is that the car is going to smell incredible. And that smell will probably linger a little while longer as well.
V2L uses the charging port and isn't operational while the vehicle is in motion.
Incorrect.
The Kia implementation has a 120 AC plug in the rear cargo area on the right-hand side. It can be used while driving as long as Utility mode is activated. It cuts off if the charger port door is open, whether to charge or use V2L through the outside port via the adapter. Even if nothing is plugged in, the open charge door phycially prevents interior V2L as a safety measure.
EV6 users routinely plug in small fridges or laptops to charge while driving without a 12V adapter, and the EV9 uses the exact implementation.
The Kia implementation has a 120 AC plug in the rear cargo area on the right-hand side. It can be used while driving as long as Utility mode is activated. It cuts off if the charger port door is open, whether to charge or use V2L through the outside port via the adapter. Even if nothing is plugged in, the open charge door phycially prevents interior V2L as a safety measure.
EV6 users routinely plug in small fridges or laptops to charge while driving without a 12V adapter, and the EV9 uses the exact implementation.
I don't know anyone who would consider a 120V (NEMA 5-15) inverter outlet "V2L"
By that metric my EcoBoost Explorer has V2L.
By that metric my EcoBoost Explorer has V2L.
No, Not a F150. I've got a a 120V/15A inverter outlet in the cabin. This isn't ProPower
That's just you being snooty. 
But more seriously, if I had a need fo an EV that would output more power over V2L, I would be shopping for a different class of car, not a comfy family hauler with a lot of conveniences and safety gizmos.
But more seriously, if I had a need fo an EV that would output more power over V2L, I would be shopping for a different class of car, not a comfy family hauler with a lot of conveniences and safety gizmos.
Yes, off a gas engine. V2L is a battery thing. Even if both do the same functionally.
Kia can run a load inside and larger loads outside.
And neither does that Kia, at least in the US. It's limited to 120V.
The internet says in the US it's a single 120V/16A circuit shared between the inside and outside plug, or 1.9kW.
Saw my first Cybertruck on Saturday. The guy seemed to be trying to out-douchbag the Jeep/Bronco Bros.
1. Parked facing the wrong way on a 1 way street
2. In a no-parking zone
3. With half his vehicle up on the sidewalk.
The only checkbox he missed was bringing his own pile of old snow to climb.
1. Parked facing the wrong way on a 1 way street
2. In a no-parking zone
3. With half his vehicle up on the sidewalk.
The only checkbox he missed was bringing his own pile of old snow to climb.
Because you're getting half the total wattage you can get in the rest of the world.
I was just pointing out that the claim of 3.7kW is only true for ROW region, not NAR. I never said what I or anyone else did or didn't want.
Also apparently it's being generated from the ICCU itself an not an additional inverter, which has a habit of melting in those vehicles.
Also apparently it's being generated from the ICCU itself an not an additional inverter, which has a habit of melting in those vehicles.
I can tell you that the main effect of the airfryer in the car is an unwelcome addition of heat to the already hot weather. That's why it's on the roof in the picture. Slow cooker is probably much more doable (I'd guess it's maybe 200W instead of the 1500W of the airfryer).
By the way, I called it a gimmick, but I've done a handful of road trips now and the lack of hot food or stuff you can prepare properly is a real downer. I can't live off of preserved 'will stay safe in a hot car' food. A mini kitchenette, mini fridge and V2L is a real quality of life feature in an EV you expect to use for road trips.
The kitchenette addition to the Rivian pickup is a super appealing option, although I wouldn't use it near as often as I like to think I would.
I mean we've got three kids and go on a 14-18 hour trip once or twice a year. Pack snacks and some insulated water bottles but a fridge or kitchenette wouldn't benefit us at all.
IMO if you already have a massive car like a Rivian a relatively bulky kitchenette like the one that fits in the tunnel is OK, but for anything else you can make your life better with a subset of those items. I'm not saying it's necessary at all, of course not, especially if it's a sub-24 hour trip, but it's one of the very, very few modern features of cars that I'd consider a real improvement in comfort.