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Street crime affects people the most, people don't care about corporate crime.
Corporate crime actually affects most people more (IIRC wage theft exceeds the actual losses to petty crime alone, and let’s not talk about the losses to people’s retirement funds from corporate malfeasance and insider trading) but the effects aren’t immediately noticeable so people don’t pay attention to it.
 

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Whats fun is living in Alabama, going to the local Nextdoor.com community, and seeing people there talk about how dangerous New York is and how they don't want New York politics introduced to Alabama because of it. In reality, Alabama has double the number of homicides (per capita) than New York.
People literally base their reality on tv shows and movies. The average voter literally think movies are real life.

You have to understand that for Republicans, "crime" is just a code word. Virtue signaling if you will. White people like Trump can't commit "crime", it's just not something Republicans will accept. For them, "crime" is entirely a problem caused by Black and brown people. That's why they don't view cops as racist and have no problem with police gunning down Black men if they sneeze too loudly.
Republican view "criminal" as a class of people. Almost like a DnD race like Mage or Orc. You really see this with immigration, the idea that immigrants are mostly criminals even if they haven't committed a crime yet. When a migrant kills someone, they will claim "we let a criminal into the country!" but thats wrong. They are asserting someone is a criminal before even committing a crime. When someone commits a crime, they view that person as being born a criminal, not as someone who was innocent and then became a criminal after committing the crime.
 

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Whats fun is living in Alabama, going to the local Nextdoor.com community, and seeing people there talk about how dangerous New York is and how they don't want New York politics introduced to Alabama because of it. In reality, Alabama has double the number of homicides (per capita) than New York.
You could share that with them, but I'm afraid it would only convince them that Alabama has an even more urgent problem of criminals.
People literally base their reality on tv shows and movies. The average voter literally think movies are real life.
Republican view "criminal" as a class of people. Almost like a DnD race like Mage or Orc.
That's literally what they think. The race part.
You really see this with immigration, the idea that immigrants are mostly criminals even if they haven't committed a crime yet. When a migrant kills someone, they will claim "we let a criminal into the country!" but thats wrong. They are asserting someone is a criminal before even committing a crime. When someone commits a crime, they view that person as being born a criminal, not as someone who was innocent and then became a criminal after committing the crime.
Another thing to point out. They weren't criminals before they came here. Something about America might have been a contributing factor. Something like racism and gun worship.
 
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Street crime affects people the most, people don't care about corporate crime.
This, of course, is bullshit. The reality is that, if you have been robbed, it was probably your boss who isn't paying minimum wage or stole from you by making you work off the clock. Similarly, the recent supposed wave of shoplifting likewise isn't real.

No, the reality is that it's really easy to convince people that they should fear so-called street crime when the reality is that corporate crime is far far more likely to harm you, lead to layoffs, destroy your retirement find, or dump some poison in your neighborhood leading to things like cancer and death. Now that is rightly terrifying. By comparison, so-called 'street crime' is a picnic.
 

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This, of course, is bullshit. The reality is that, if you have been robbed, it was probably your boss who isn't paying minimum wage or stole from you by making you work off the clock. Similarly, the recent supposed wave of shoplifting likewise isn't real.

No, the reality is that it's really easy to convince people that they should fear so-called street crime when the reality is that corporate crime is far far more likely to harm you, lead to layoffs, destroy your retirement find, or dump some poison in your neighborhood leading to things like cancer and death. Now that is rightly terrifying. By comparison, so-called 'street crime' is a picnic.
Americans have been carefully trained to overlook most corporate crime and to overestimate "street crime". As I noted above, the latter has been steadily decreasing, since 1990 at least.
Property crime is down 60% from 1990.
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violent crime is down almost 50%
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So when people are saying they're concerned about crime, they mean they're concerned about perception that crime is "way up" and it's simply not true. It's the opposite of true. They've been convinced of a lie.
 

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Whats fun is living in Alabama, going to the local Nextdoor.com community, and seeing people there talk about how dangerous New York is and how they don't want New York politics introduced to Alabama because of it. In reality, Alabama has double the number of homicides (per capita) than New York.
People literally base their reality on tv shows and movies. The average voter literally think movies are real life.


I am a member of a couple of City of Chicago-themed Facebook groups (yeah, Facebook, I know....). They exist to post current and past pictures of places and moments in the city: Street corners at various decades, people in front of buildings, neat urban features, old Chicago businesses, etc. Nearly every post, regardless of the topic, has some usually exurbian troll posting some complaint based on conservative nightmare fantasies about how they can never come back to the city due to 'all the violence'. 'Can't walk around downtown no more....' 'They shoot at you as soon as you step inside the city boundaries.' 'It's just not safe like it was in the 60s/70s/80s.... :rolleyes: '. Despite the constant counters by actual residents in Chicago proper, there is no dissuading these chicken littles in the steady insistence that Chicago is nearly a post-apocalyptic zone of lawlessness (yet also stifling from legally-madated wokism, go figure).

It's tiresome in its regularity.
 
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I do feel SF Bay Area has gotten worse. There are also a general decrease in civil in daily interaction. People are louder on public transportation, more damage on the infrastructure (though it may be more a funding problem), definitely more homelessness. I do feel a bit less safe compare to 10 years ago, but not significantly. I think there are more mental unwell people vs. actually danger people. So I do not think SF Bay Area is that unsafe. However, it is still a far cry from Hong Kong, Singapore or Tokyo on how safe it is.
 

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I was in Houston for work a couple of weeks ago, visiting clients with a coworker. All but one of the Uber drivers we used were brown. They were either silent or made small talk. The one white guy engaged in conversation, and when he found out if we were from the NY area, immediately asked if crime was as bad as they hear down there. I told him not only is it not bad, it was not even that bad when crime was higher years ago for people like us. Being white means you avoid most street crime.

I when to college in Newark, NJ and would walk the 3/4 mile from school to the train station in the middle of the night after parties and was never even approached once, except for an occasional panhandler asking for some change or a smoke. If I was a black person who lived in the more dangerous wards in town, my experiences would have been different.
 
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I am a member of a couple of City of Chicago-themed Facebook groups (yeah, Facebook, I know....). They exist to post current and past pictures of places and moments in the city: Street corners at various decades, people in front of buildings, neat urban features, old Chicago businesses, etc. Nearly every post, regardless of the topic, has some usually exurbian troll posting some complaint based on conservative nightmare fantasies about how they can never come back to the city due to 'all the violence'. 'Can't walk around downtown no more....' 'They shoot at you as soon as you step inside the city boundaries.' 'It's just not safe like it was in the 60s/70s/80s.... :rolleyes: '. Despite the constant counters by actual residents in Chicago proper, there is no dissuading these chicken littles in the steady insistence that Chicago is nearly a post-apocalyptic zone of lawlessness (yet also stifling from legally-madated wokism, go figure).

It's tiresome in its regularity.
I haven't been on FB for years, but it strikes me that everyone's experience could be improved if there were a third party troll-blocking service.
 

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People in rural counties are more likely to kill themselves. People in urban counties are more likely to kill someone else. But the former effect is enough bigger than the latter that people's total risk of getting killed with a firearm is highest in the most rural counties.

Which belies the assertion of so many I have heard that they want to live in rural areas. No, people don't. Living in rural areas is so much worse than living in urban areas that people are killing themselves to escape it.
 

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I was in Houston for work a couple of weeks ago, visiting clients with a coworker. All but one of the Uber drivers we used were brown. They were either silent or made small talk. The one white guy engaged in conversation, and when he found out if we were from the NY area, immediately asked if crime was as bad as they hear down there. I told him not only is it not bad, it was not even that bad when crime was higher years ago for people like us. Being white means you avoid most street crime.

I when to college in Newark, NJ and would walk the 3/4 mile from school to the train station in the middle of the night after parties and was never even approached once, except for an occasional panhandler asking for some change or a smoke. If I was a black person who lived in the more dangerous wards in town, my experiences would have been different.
My answer would have been short. "No, it's about twice as dangerous to live in Houston, but I'm brave."
 

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People in rural counties are more likely to kill themselves. People in urban counties are more likely to kill someone else. But the former effect is enough bigger than the latter that people's total risk of getting killed with a firearm is highest in the most rural counties.

Which belies the assertion of so many I have heard that they want to live in rural areas. No, people don't. Living in rural areas is so much worse than living in urban areas that people are killing themselves to escape it.
And even then, once you leave the absolute-most dense urban areas, the homicide rates are just about even no matter the density.
 

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Josh Stein, Democrat candidate for NC governor, is not going to take Mark Robinson, the firebrand Republican nominee for governor, for granted.

Robinson's previous opponent concentrated only in the NC big cities, didn't campaign in rural NC at all.

Despite the crazy things Robinson has said and done, the race won't be easy like the PA governor race in 2022, when a far right Republican lost to Josh Shapiro by a relatively big margin.

Given the stakes, Stein’s campaign hopes to avoid the pratfall of tradecraft that led to Robinson’s victory in the lieutenant governor’s race four years ago. For the moment, the tables have turned on the campaign trail in their favor.

In one of Robinson’s three bankruptcy filings, reporters discovered that he had failed to file income taxes between 1998 and 2002. Questions have been raised about personal expenses charged to campaign funds from the 2020 race.

His wife shuttered a nutrition non-profit after a conservative blogger began to raise questions about the Robinson family’s financial dependence on government contracts. Reporters later learned that the North Carolina department of health and human services is investigating the firm for questionable accounting.

In the hothouse of abortion politics this year, video also surfaced of Robinson at a rally in February calling for an eventual ban on abortion. “We got to do it the same way they rolled it forward,” Robinson said. “We got to do it the same way with rolling it back. We’ve got it down to 12 weeks. The next goal is to get it down to six, and then just keep moving from there.”

His campaign spokesperson later re-characterized those remarks as support for a ban beyond the six-week “heartbeat” stage of a pregnancy.

Robinson acknowledged in 2022 paying for an abortion for his wife 33 years earlier.

The question is whether Robinson’s full-throated anti-abortion stance hinders not just his own candidacy but that of Trump. Planned Parenthood plans to double its spending in North Carolina, to $10m, with an eye on defending the governorship and ending a veto-proof Republican legislative majority. Trump, meanwhile, has backed away from publicly endorsing the most extreme abortion bans.


Read in The Guardian: https://apple.news/AtI9ts3biRjiBFLRtluLvLg
 

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That looks like a wise path to take. NC is less in play than PA is, so it's good that Stein isn't going to take any geographic area for granted. Hillary Clinton's campaign did this in the 2016 campaign, and was considered a factor in the election results. Especially with the electoral stakes in 2024, leaving no stone unturned is sagacious.
 

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Not to be conspiratorial, but there's probably a juicy backstory behind that decision. Perhaps with this simmering issue now at full boil, more details will be released. Have wondered—is this a situation where kompromat was held over him, while conversely, he held kompromat over some of the party decision makers? From an outsider's perspective, he appeared to be radioactive—a quality the party can ill-afford to countenance at a time of razor-thin voting margins and democracy held in the balance.
 

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The Democratic primary for the US Senate is this Tuesday.

It's been contentious, between a congressman and a Prince George's County executive.

The congressman David Trone started a wine distribution business so he's lent the campaign $60 million just for the primary. The state Democratic establishment backs Angela Alsobrooks, a black woman but Trone has the endorsement of Hakeem Jefferies and many other members of Congress.

There is little policy differences between them but the race has gotten personal with some Trone backers talking about how she'd need training wheels in the Senate because she doesn't have the experience at the federal level.

They're running to go up against Larry Hogan, who in some polls had a big lead against them but in other polls trail both Democratic candidates. Biden won the stat by 33 points and there's very little record of split voting between the presidential candidate and a Senate candidate so it's assumed the Democratic candidate for Senate would have an advantage, despite Hogan's popularity.

However McConnell and other Senate Republicans are targeting the open Maryland Senate seat as a pickup opportunity.

"The race is very fluid. If we were having this conversation a month ago, I'd say that there's a clear advantage for David Trone. But County Executive Alsobrooks has had a good run here as of late," said longtime Maryland Democratic strategist Len Foxwell, who, after speaking with ABC News for this story, said in a post on X that he liked "both candidates – just Trone "a little better."

"I think it's a toss-up right now," Foxwell said.

Trone burst onto the scene with a war chest that would prove hard for Alsobrooks to match and for virtually any candidate anywhere to replicate, blitzing the airways with advertisements as part of a nine-to-one spending advantage over his opponent. Trone and groups supporting him have spent at least $45 million on advertising in the race, rapidly eclipsing Alsobrooks and groups supporting her, who put in at least $5.6 million on advertising, per nonpartisan ad tracking firm Ad Impact.

On top of that, Trone has the backing of congressional heavy hitters such as House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

MORE: Could Larry Hogan turn a blue Senate seat red in Maryland?
However, he has been tripped up in the past few weeks. A verbal slip up in which he uttered a racial slur instead of the word "bugaboo" sparked a wave of negative headlines and ushered more endorsements to Alsobrooks. Also, a recent ad supporting Trone featured one supporter saying the Senate is not a place for those who need "training wheels" -- a swipe at Alsobrooks that critics said was a punch below the belt.

Trone apologized for the verbal slip, saying he didn't know the word was a racial slur. On Tuesday night, Trone said that the "training wheels" comment is one the supporter stands by, not one he made.

However, the Alsobrooks campaign pointed ABC News to a recent interview with WRC-TV where Trone said "this job is not for someone on training wheels."

 

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The Washington Post is endorsing Alsobrooks in that race.

Trone is a prolific fundraiser—have seen enough materials from him. The real test will be in the general election. Hogan was popular as a governor, and to his credit called out Trump on numerous occasions. He also benefitted from unexciting candidates on the Democratic side. Unfortunately, democracy can't afford another Republican in the Senate at this point.
 

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The Washington Post is endorsing Alsobrooks in that race.

Trone is a prolific fundraiser—have seen enough materials from him. The real test will be in the general election. Hogan was popular as a governor, and to his credit called out Trump on numerous occasions. He also benefitted from unexciting candidates on the Democratic side. Unfortunately, democracy can't afford another Republican in the Senate at this point.

Trone is a prolific spender, he's spent something like $50M of his own money so far.

And to be honest, Hogan would be a complete and total waste of a Senate seat. He's actually a MAGA enemy so a big slice of the Republican party is going to treat him like radioactive raw sewage. That'll go double if Trump is elected because Hogan has said mean things about Trump and Trump never forgets or forgives. And since Hogan is a Republican, he's not going to caucus with the Democrats even though he might actually be able to get something accomplished if he did.
 

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Still he would be one seat towards a GOP majority and whoever replaces McConnell will be worse.

Hogan may not have indicated how he'd vote on judicial nominees.

That's a huge consideration.

Trump and the Republicans are talking about rolling back the IRA along with the usual promises to repeal Obamacare and any other number of legislation passed by Democrats.

If Hogan is going to vote the same as other Republicans on things like climate change, health care, taxes, etc. he probably won't be much different from the bog standard Republican Senator, maybe similar to Romney, who can sometimes be critical of Trump and vote to impeach but otherwise green-lights all the judicial nominees and other awful policies.
 

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And to be honest, Hogan would be a complete and total waste of a Senate seat. He's actually a MAGA enemy so a big slice of the Republican party is going to treat him like radioactive raw sewage. That'll go double if Trump is elected because Hogan has said mean things about Trump and Trump never forgets or forgives. And since Hogan is a Republican, he's not going to caucus with the Democrats even though he might actually be able to get something accomplished if he did.

Regarding forgiving and forgetting—it needs to be stressed that Trump is highly transactional. DeSantis, for example, has said mean things about him, but they are now reportedly mending fences since it appears to be in their mutual best interests to do so. That may not be the case for Hogan, since doing so would probably alienate some of the voters he would need to carry the state.
 

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Remember when Nancy Pelosi assured us that anti-choice moderate Henry Cuellar was a better choice than progressive Jessica Cisneros? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

US Rep Henry Cuellar (D-TX) and wife indicted

The NRCC sees this as a multi-seat pickup opportunity now.

Instead, Republicans are loudly tying Cuellar’s allegations of bribery and corruption to other competitive races in South Texas, even though those Democratic candidates have no substantive connection to the alleged crimes. In the 34th district, U.S. Rep. Vicente Gonzalez, D-McAllen, is Republicans’ top target in the state, and the GOP hopes to portray the moderate member as a spiritual confrere to Cuellar.

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Cuellar and Gonzalez are often grouped together as South Texas moderates who at times buck their party leadership on votes about fossil fuels or border security. Republican messaging aims to paint the two as belonging to an old generation of Democrats in South Texas, a region with a noted history of political corruption.

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Republicans only flipped one of the seats: the 15th District where Republican Rep. Monica De La Cruz bested Democratic candidate Michelle Vallejo for an open seat. Cuellar’s win over Garcia, even in the wake of the FBI raid on his home and office, was so steep that it dissuaded Republicans from wading back into the district. He won the race by over 13 points.

Now, Republicans are staying focused on defeating Gonzalez and protecting De La Cruz in her rematch against Vallejo.

The NRCC noted that Vallejo, like Gonzalez, hasn’t called on Cuellar to resign. Bomar said in a statement that the silence “means they either support Cuellar or that they don’t care he’s been indicted.” But De La Cruz and Flores have also stayed silent on the issue.

This would be the exact kind of own goal I've come to expect from the Democratic Party in Texas.
 

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It's obvious that Pelosi has an anti-progressive bias, but pushing for that type of damaged candidate achieved what, a Pyrrhic victory? This could have a number of knock-on effects at a time when the party and the country can ill-afford them.

Eh, Pelosi has an incumbent bias moreso. One thing I can't fault her on between her times as either Speaker or Minority Leader is how stable House Democrats looked in the last decade compared to House Republicans. In the last decade, Republicans ousted not one but two of their own Speakers and lost a Majority Leader to electoral incompetence. But that stability came at a serious cost of locking new blood out so long that it's no surprise why 2016 was such a rebuke of the Democratic Party of the time or why 2018 saw some major shakeups at the entry level in the House.
 
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Those are good points. A similar situation occurred in Germany, when Angela Merkel held the position of Chancellor for 16 years. To do so, she had to maintain order and stymie up-and-comers. As a result, when she left office in 2021, her party, the CDU, suffered steep electoral declines due to no one in the pipeline to take the reins. Ideally, a party should have a process in place to account for succession, continuity, and evolution. As a result, we're witnessing a type of gerontocracy in the political establishment in the US now. This isn't being ageist, but a clear-eyed look at the future. Who will be there to fill the shoes when the incumbents are gone?
 
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Those are good points. A similar situation occurred in Germany, when Angela Merkel held the position of Chancellor for 16 years. To do so, she had to maintain order and stymie up-and-comers. As a result, when she left office in 2021, her party, the CDU, suffered steep electoral declines due to no one in the pipeline to take the reins. Ideally, a party should have a process in place to account for succession, continuity, and evolution. As a result, we're witnessing a type of gerontocracy in the political establishment in the US now. This isn't being ageist, but a clear-eyed look at the future. Who will be there to fill the shoes when the incumbents are gone?

I'd be hard pressed to provide accurate commentary for Merkel's leadership as Chancellor, much less as a party leader. But part of this issue does actually fall on Obama as he eschewed the party leadership part of his Presidential tenure. The 2010 midterm may have been an immediate reaction but 2012 and 2014 saw continually eroding Democratic support going down the line to state races because that's the way the party operated. The Democratic Party today seems at least somewhat more aware across the board of the need to maintain this institutional pipeline but there's definitely legacy cruft in places like Texas.
 

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Eh, Pelosi has an incumbent bias moreso. One thing I can't fault her on between her times as either Speaker or Minority Leader is how stable House Democrats looked in the last decade compared to House Republicans. In the last decade, Republicans ousted not one but two of their own Speakers and lost a Majority Leader to electoral incompetence. But that stability came at a serious cost of locking new blood out so long that it's no surprise why 2016 was such a rebuke of the Democratic Party of the time or why 2018 saw some major shakeups at the entry level in the House.

It's hard to blame the members of the House for being old. It's the rest of us that keep electing the same people over and over.

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But, it needs to be stressed that there are structural reasons for this—mainly how seniority works in Congress. And, even tossing out the incumbency biases that voters may have—there are good reasons to have long-term members. It takes time to learn the system and build relationships. Sometimes this can work well—such as when LBJ pulled chits to get the CRA passed, but other times not—where cronyism, nepotism and inertia hamper progress. The question is, how to reform the system to produce better and more equitable governance?