Intel 14th Gen Thread

cerberusTI

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If you look at their initial statement, setting PL1 and PL2 to defaults, and not having the OS stay in high power modes, are recommended to reduce the chances of this. They note that changing voltage or frequency settings is out of spec, but power limits are expected to be something you can set, as is having the OS not enter lower power modes when it has the opportunity (it is even expected you can fully load it at all times if desired, and there seems to be at least one questionable but large sampling saying many fail early in this case).

For more fun, they apparently do not want motherboards to just restrict power to their normal defaults if they can do better, so they put out more possible defaults for better motherboards, and confused everyone a little bit as to exactly what the recommendation is.

In the past (for quite a while, although if you go far enough back they just burned up if anything went wrong), generally motherboards determined power limits as the processor would thermally throttle if cooling was not sufficient, and the main stability affecting limit was the reliability of the power supply the motherboard was providing. If they arranged for stable power beyond what a processor was reasonably going to pull, and put a heat sink on it, they set it to a few kilowatts to be effectively limited only by what the processor decided it could safely pull at the moment without cooking itself.

Over time, power delivery to the processor has become one of the ways motherboards differentiate lines, with more expensive motherboards having more ability to do this. Intel processors especially benefit from higher power draw, they are less competitive without that. It was intended that you can do this, and nobody wants the situation where it is recommended to stay at low power to persist (if that is even the current recommendation).

For someone buying a 14900k, that is a lot like saying you may not want to drive your sports car over 60mph while an engine issue is investigated. I think we can safely say everyone intended it to be able to do better, even if the recommendation has a good reason.

Many also seem to run without a problem. It is a large number of affected chips, but nothing like all.
 
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