The Russian Navy is a joke and Putin knows it. In any conventional conflict, it would last mere moments. One US Carrier Strike Group would be all that was needed and there are eleven. NATO has sixteen. Russia has one carrier and that is crippled.
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That's if they make it to open water. Depending on the circumstances of the conflict, they'd never make it out of Saint Pete / Kaliningrad, let alone the Danish Belts.
Mystery as Russian judge dies after falling from window
Natalia Larina, 50, was found dead outside her apartment block in Moscow six months after she had retired, Russian media reported.
www.newsweek.com
Russia being Russia. Why would she be murdered? Who knows, but jumping out one's own window is never easy to believe even in a country with a suicide rate like Russia's.
Hypersonic weapons: Why is Russia accusing its own scientists of treason?
Rights groups warn of state paranoia as experts on hypersonics, the science behind ultrafast missiles, have been jailed.
an article about the insane auto-immune-disease-like fixation Russia has for persecuting its own scientists working on anything related to the hypersonic missiles (accurately labeled or not) that it loves so much. The best guess is "Putin wants to hear that the West is spying on them, therefore they need to convict spies."
Completely insane and inhumane, but if Russia wants to impede its own progress, more power to it.
Alternate theory: the Russian "hypersonic" weapons didn't live up to the hype, but nobody can admit it's because the hype was always bullshit. So, instead, the scientists just have to have done something to cause that, so the beatings will continue until you build real hypersonic weapons.Hypersonic weapons: Why is Russia accusing its own scientists of treason?
Rights groups warn of state paranoia as experts on hypersonics, the science behind ultrafast missiles, have been jailed.www.bbc.com
an article about the insane auto-immune-disease-like fixation Russia has for persecuting its own scientists working on anything related to the hypersonic missiles (accurately labeled or not) that it loves so much. The best guess is "Putin wants to hear that the West is spying on them, therefore they need to convict spies."
Completely insane and inhumane, but if Russia wants to impede its own progress, more power to it.
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They just really want ONE super weapon that actually does what they claim. The “Putin 6” aren’t really turning out to be all that impressive - like the Armata and MiG 41 that also performed underwhelming, even if they could be produced in numbers that make any difference.
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Anyone know if Russian has a word that's the equivalent of "being suicided", and what it is? I feel like that's the kind of word that could have legs, like German's schadenfreude.
Putin's Russia has permanent "Shot himself in the back of the head six times, reloaded, shot six more, then jumped down an elevator shaft. Worst case of suicide I've ever seen," energy.
Given that Navalny officially died from "sudden death syndrome", it seems like they use the same basic word we do to describe sudden Russian death syndrome.
US navy "shadowing" Russian flotilla off Florida coast—satellite data
A Russian naval group is heading towards the Caribbean in a perceived Russian retaliation to the Pentagon's military support for Ukraine.
www.newsweek.com
No word on if this mighty fleet was everything they intended to send or not.
The word for suicide is "самоубийство" which is literally "selfkilling" (or "selfmurder") so you can say basically "got suicided" kind of thing (его самоубили), or you could say that someone "самоубился" which refers to self twice, redundantly, which with the right context comes off as ironic / "yeah, right" kind of double positive (although that could also be interpreted literally).
edit: also of course the "the most terrible suicide, who could possibly do such a thing?" kind of stuff works in Russian just the same.
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Looks like everyone is getting in on tracking the Russian flotilla.
www.twz.com
Russian Naval Group Shadowed Off Florida By U.S., Allies
Three Russian Navy warships and a nuclear submarine vessels appear to have sailed within 30 miles of the Florida coast on their way to Cuba.
www.twz.com
Including an oil tanker and a tugboat under the "warship" label seems a bit of a stretch.Looks like everyone is getting in on tracking the Russian flotilla.
Russian Naval Group Shadowed Off Florida By U.S., Allies
Three Russian Navy warships and a nuclear submarine vessels appear to have sailed within 30 miles of the Florida coast on their way to Cuba.
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You forgot the damage they could do to the sea floor on impact.
Indeed. Too bad Putin won't repeat those at 1930s scale because it's so institutionally disruptive. New hires would be busy avoiding deletion.
If anyone still thinks Russia is still a world military power this should be a very big slap in the face with reality.
I have pointed out for years that it is one thing to bring a couple of MIG-31s to an peace time airshow.
It is another thing to field squadrons of advanced aircraft world wide and project power with having 2 or 3 carrier battle groups roaming around. Plus subs that actually work.
The Russian's have never done that. They did intend to roll over Europe in a wave ofT-34s T-64s or maybe T-14s with lots and lots of artillery . Brute power was the plan. They are still trying to work that tactic out in Ukraine.
I have pointed out for years that it is one thing to bring a couple of MIG-31s to an peace time airshow.
It is another thing to field squadrons of advanced aircraft world wide and project power with having 2 or 3 carrier battle groups roaming around. Plus subs that actually work.
The Russian's have never done that. They did intend to roll over Europe in a wave of
Unless the oil tanker is loaded with something other than a form of oil, something other that is highly explosive, it will mostly form a new refuge for aquatic life over time, not excavate a giant crater. Its contents, whatever they may be, however, may be a threat to aquatic and terrestrial life in a wide area around its sinking point if they happen to be toxic or otherwise dangerous.
As for the tug boat, it probably is mostly a danger to its crew, depending on its sea-worthiness.
Komrade! Even the Romans knew the the use of fire ships!
You uneducated homosexual, you are ignorant of the history of the Romans and Moscow! We are the rightful descendants of the Holy Roman Empire, including all of ‘Rus and the Kievian heartlands. This ancient wisdom was passed directly down to us and this fearsome weapon of war shall incinerate our pitiful enemies. We have dedicated our entire fleet to this purpose and our stalwart conscripted cadets stand ready, cigarettes poised, ready for disposal at our inclination!
I'd laugh more, but that's pretty much verbatim from a Russian that posts in another forum I frequent.
Armenia is poised to exit Russian-led CSTO, says Pashinyan
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has signalled that Armenia plans to exit the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) ...
Still just talk, but it turns out that leaving your 'allies' high and dry tends to sour their views.
Speaking of the Russian Navy sojourn to Cuba, USS Helena is putting a "routine" stopover at Guantanamo Bay the next day. Why do I get the feeling USN is trolling Russia? USS Helena is the oldest Los Angeles flight 2 in service and would be decommissioned next year. It was named after the city Helena, Montana. Shade of a certain book first published in the 1980s, with one of it's movie cast later become a fictional paleontologist in Montana on another movie?
Considering the Yasen class submarine is passing through AUTEC, is that the score US Navy gave for the Russian submarine? Or is it the one that tailed them all the way from Barents sea?
Edit: Nah can't be the last option. Five days ago Commander, Submarine Squadron Six posted in Facebook
Considering the Yasen class submarine is passing through AUTEC, is that the score US Navy gave for the Russian submarine? Or is it the one that tailed them all the way from Barents sea?
Edit: Nah can't be the last option. Five days ago Commander, Submarine Squadron Six posted in Facebook
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And the HMCS Margaret Brooke will be visiting Havana this weekend. Party in Havana?
And Putin to visit North Korea:
www.theguardian.com
Not sure that one is worth a party, unless both tumble out of the window while in a loving embrace.
US and South Korea sound warning amid reports Putin is headed to North Korea
Civilian aircraft have been cleared from Pyongyang’s airport and there are signs of preparations for a possible parade in Kim Il-sung Square
www.theguardian.com
Not sure that one is worth a party, unless both tumble out of the window while in a loving embrace.
Armenia probably considered it existential. Without material backing of Russia, Armenia is quite literally at the mercy of Azerbaijan and Turkey. Them backing out should be considered huge klaxons for anyone that might have thought it could have been real.
There also was the January 2022 unrests in Kazakhstan, where Russian troops operating under the CSTO framework were used to quell domestic unrest.
The whole thing most likely was the result of an internal power struggle, in the form of real and genuine domestic discontent being used for purposes of the political elite, between former president Nursultan Nazarbayev and current president Kassym-Jomart Tokayev. Whether this was the result of the Nazarbayev faction trying to coup Tokayev, Tokayev trying to purge the vestiges of the Nazarbayev fraction, or a mixture of the two (for example an attempt by the Nazarbayev faction to get Tokayev to agree to some sort of powersharing, with Tokayev using the opportunity and pretext to purge them), is of course something that I don't really know, and don't expect to find publicly available and reliable documents on for quite some time.
Be that as it may, Tokayev certainly relied on CSTO to get Russian troops in (and later out ...) of the country; to him CSTO certainly was real and did matter. Unlike some of the Armenian and Azerbijani actors -- of course not all of them are fools, but for some of them it is the friendliest adjective I can think of -- he's also no fool. That is one shrewd operator, which should be readily apparent from how he's very successfully used the Russian invastion into Ukraine to solidify Kazakhstans national security situation, and get out of where his biggest patron (one Vladimir Putin) was also the biggest threat to Kazakh sovereignty over their country.
Looking back at how he used those CSTO troops, he also might have known a thing or two how useful individual Russian soldiers were. Kazakh military and police isn't know for their light touch and tender sensibilities in interacting with the public, yet Tokayev used the Russian troops (and that was not without risk to him or his regime) to free up his own forces and use those forces to quell the unrest, instead of using Russian troops directly in that role. One interpretation of this was that while Tokayev certainly is no stranger to the "shoot them" approach of pacification, he also understands that indiscriminately murder is counter-productive, and he didn't trust the Russian troops to refrain from that.
To sum it up, yes, whatever joke it has become now CSTO used to be something that people took seriously. Perhaps not as serious as NATO -- especially in nuclear deterrence -- but serious nonetheless.
Whatever hierarchy may exist in Putin's head both Nazarbayev and Tokayev are much higher in it than himself. Weird as it is.
View: https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1803150813369610290
Wooo... that is until....
View: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1803416735690682462
From the video...
LOL oh man... This is excellent stuff I can just rewatch for hours.
Zelensky visits Singapore for the international Shangri-La Dialogue, the best Putin can do is DPRK and Vietnam. At least Vietnam is far more credible a country to visit but it's amusing he didn't bother visiting either for two decades. Now he comes begging and then getting kicked out of the room for daring to go in first. LOL Lavrov must be fucking seething.
If anyone is wondering why Vietnam is hosting, aside from their official neutrality on the Ukraine invasion, Vietnam is leveraging Russia against China— Gazprom has operations in Vietnam’s EEZ (claimed by China) and Putin has previously promoted Vietnam’s position on the South China Sea.