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Demon Slayer didn't really grab me from the first episode, although the animation was really nice. I watched enough Naruto to know that another show like that will probably annoy me though, if the pacing is similar. Why it takes 3 episodes for one fight scene, ugh. It was one of the reasons I never watched One Piece, although I liked the Netflix version. I think its had too many episodes now for me to want to attempt to catch up with it anyway.
"Modern" anime don't really have pacing issues. They run for a season, then stop. When there's new material, they run for another season, even if there's a year wait in between. On top of that, Demon Slayer's manga finished.
 

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Sigh. I watched Heavenly Delusion over the last few days and found it pretty frustrating. It's not bad at all and the quality of work is decent but because it features a lot of mysteries and setups for plot lines and characters that all have unexplained backgrounds, unclear motives, twists and unexplained circumstances... it gets to be a bit much. I get what they are going for but I think it needed to be released as a long series with 20-22 episodes, or longer episodes so they can cover more of the manga (which I haven't read) all at once, or simply wait for more of the manga to be available and produce a slightly more concise or more interesting product.

The story has literally no characters with clear motives or intentions or background despite a number of flashbacks for the main characters and some others. It has a post apocalytpic world setting but no clear cause or even description of the event(s) that caused it. It has monsters that are never clarified as being alien, mystical, mutant animals, or mutant humans in nature. They seem to have abilities that defy the laws of physics... but they never explain that.

The time frame is a bit unclear but it has been 30 years since the event that caused everything to be destroyed (at least in Japan, probably most or all of the world) from what I remember yet there is relatively little effort to rebuild or to stabilize and improve living conditions. People are still just scavenging for leftovers and whatever resources they can find. It doesn't make a ton of sense despite a relatively large amount of exposition in some of the episodes. The stories tend to focus mainly on the personal situations of random side characters and the main characters in the context of the world, rather than any clarification of the situation of the world and a plan to change anything. Most of the characters seem to basically be just fine with how things are despite a large number of them having clear memories of better times and stuff.

It reminded me a lot of the TV show Lost in that it felt like a bunch of characters put in a fabricated situation and the point of most episodes is to see how they act or respond rather than telling a specific ongoing story. It makes it feel a bit experimental and unscripted at times even though it is all clearly designed to be going somewhere at some point.

What is on the screen is still fairly entertaining and has a bit of a hook to it so that when it ended I was left thinking, "Seriously? That's it? Come on..." so I guess I wanted more. Mostly I wanted some actual details on what the heck is going on. Most/nearly all of the show is done from the point of view of young people between around 8-20 or so and virutally all adults in the show seem to basically be evil or at best uninterested in doing much good for anyone other than themselves, even when it is plainly clear that there are opportunities to make life better for everyone.

There doesn't seem to be anything specifically wrong with the world... there are occasional earthquakes but it takes place in Japan so... yeah. Generally technology and science work fine, people are generally fine, plants grow, the environment is fine, animals seem fine... so it is unclear what prevents anyone from improving their living conditions yet buildings are all crumbling and often collapsing despite only 30 years having passed. Cars have mostly ceased to function though not all, for no clear reason. It's all left unspoken to a large degree so the viewer has to either just accept it or try to ignore it... but the show kind of keeps breaking its own apparent rules so it becomes frustrating. There are groups who seem to have quite advanced technology and plenty of resources though it is unclear if they built them after the event or had them stockpiled before. They never cover their living arrangements or anything so it is unclear how much they have at their disposal though energy seems readily available through some fuel stocks and solar power for a lot of things. But hardly anyone in the general public has or even tries to get any of those things except when the show needs to have some distraction of bandits who seem to want to steal such resources? It's not very consistent.

All in all, the basic premise is interesting and the anime is well enough done, it has decent artwork if not outstanding and the voice work is decent if not outstanding. Sadly the story seems a bit poorly conceived or halfbaked which is frustrating because it seems to have some interesting things to say and just struggles to actually spit them out at any point. One of the main characters is a female body actually sporting the implanted brain of her younger brother... so there is a kind of transexual relationship thing going on there and a complex romantic intent with the (nominally heterosexual) other protagonist. There is a facility of youth who seem to have been genetically manipulated or... something and they are kept isolated from the world and have no concept of sexuality or much of gender or anything else from the outside world. It is unclear why they are there outside of the admin of the facility is old and intends to have her brain implanted in a child's body at some point to extend her life and some vague mention of maybe them being soldiers? But that is not followed up on at all.

It's all very unclear and full of a lot of unsatisfying build up. If they don't produce a satisfying second series, it will have been a huge waste. It had my interest for the first 4 episodes or so but it fell apart a bit as they went on without much being made clear and now I am 50/50 whether I will bother with any of a second season unless word of mouth indicates it has a good conclusion for at least some of the story lines.
 

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Akira manga thoughts:

I didn't realize the manga didn't finish until five years after the movie; though I shouldn't be surprised at all

The art is amazing and its just oozing with character in every panel

Despite the constant action the pace eventually feels languid/repetitive but stays enjoyable throughout. It wouldn't be the first series that put off finishing to milk its success

The movie was a really clever adaptation really. They found places for most of the characters and events within the pre-apocalypse sequence and wrapped up everything in one confrontation instead of a dozen. It even did a better job of explaining the reason and consequence for Akira absorbing Tetsuo
As much as I liked all the cool military drawings, the faffing around with the American Navy and international scientists went absolutely nowhere and was perfectly fine to leave out

The last bit in the manga where they chase off the aid convoy and proclaim "Akira lives on within our hearts" felt like a fourth wall address and not a sentiment any of those characters would have felt toward the actual Akira macguffin who never really managed to be a character

That might be a bit nitpicky but I did like it overall. The 35th anniversary box I nabbed was really well done too.
 
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Looks like there's finally an answer to what's happening to your digital purchases on Funimation.
Tl;Dr; get bent.
I'm not surprised really but it's still pretty shitty.

 

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It says digital copies of purchased Blu-ray and DVDs. So I don't know if that includes straight digital purchases.

But it's still pretty much bs. If you're going to buy the company and merge and get rid of the original then migrate your customers' purchases/accounts. If not, then give me back my money.
 

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Because manga translation is still an art form, and we'd like those, at least, to still be made with real emotion... not cold mass produced computation.

Because the best translations are the ones that find creative ways to artfully convey complex meanings across vastly different languages... something no AI translation is currently capable of. (I don't care about some pie in the sky future... they are handing over these duties in the crappy AI present.)

Because you wouldn't buy a car built by robots if the robots all worked correctly half the time and the other half welded together meaningless nonsense. Trusting AI output right now has seen lawyers reprimanded and fined, journalism websites mocked and scorned, and the leaders of long running sports magazines fired... And all that was gained was made up citations and badly written articles!

But sure! Let's fire a bunch of hard working people in favor of rushed, objectively worse output all so the parent companies can churn out more profits...
Just saw the perfect example of the horrors of automated, non-human translation. Machine Translation can get it stupidly wrong!

For reference, "Gushing Over Magical Girls" is a currently airing, near-hentai, uncensored show. "Maho Shojo Madoka Magika", while a bit dark at times, is nothing of the sort. That Google just randomly decides to use entirely different words and meanings, and even throws in a character's name that wasn't there, is pretty crazy to me.

Just multiply this by 1,000s of dialogue bubbles and leave off anyone caring, because those that were paid to care already lost their jobs to AI, and the results are gonna be quite bad.
 

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Just saw the perfect example of the horrors of automated, non-human translation. Machine Translation can get it stupidly wrong!

For reference, "Gushing Over Magical Girls" is a currently airing, near-hentai, uncensored show. "Maho Shojo Madoka Magika", while a bit dark at times, is nothing of the sort. That Google just randomly decides to use entirely different words and meanings, and even throws in a character's name that wasn't there, is pretty crazy to me.

Just multiply this by 1,000s of dialogue bubbles and leave off anyone caring, because those that were paid to care already lost their jobs to AI, and the results are gonna be quite bad.
Notably, that translation is being done with Google Translate, which is decades-old tech. The new shiny is LLM-based translation, which I understand is not better currently than the old approach, but it’s easier to build (i.e., you don’t have to be a big tech company like Google), so we should expect to see more of it.
 
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Yeah they've been talking about retiring, it's good to know that at least their side of the business will keep going with lights on and it sounds like there are at least a few Kickstarter restoration projects in the pipeline. The partnership with MediaOCD (who did Discotek remasters) seems like a natural fit, too.
 
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So I've been watching Crunchyroll through Amazon Prime and it's been OK.

It's a little annoying switching languages when I switch between Western shows versus anime. I think Netflix remembers preferences separately for anime so I can watch in Japanese with English subtitles.

Also, it looks like there's some difference with dubs and subs with Crunchyroll on Prime.

I've compared a few shows and Crunchyroll has more languages available (I've found a few shows that don't have English as an option for dubbing or sub titles).

Also, I think some of the sub titles may be AI generated? There are some really obvious errors (main character's name rendered 3 different, incorrect, ways in an episode and some nonsense dialogue) that doesn't seem to be possible if a human was involved.
 
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Also, I think some of the sub titles may be AI generated? There are some really obvious errors (main character's name rendered 3 different, incorrect, ways in an episode and some nonsense dialogue) that doesn't seem to be possible if a human was involved.
Darn you, kakka carrot cake! You am no real super sand! Prepare yourself, karra-ke-kaba.... cabbage.
 

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I've just finished Mushoku Tensei. Bloody brilliant IMO. I have watched Reincarnated as a Slime and Banished from the Hero's Party, but Mushoku Tensei was easily the best out of the 3. I know the next part of season 2 airs in April, but I am going to need to get my hands on the manga or light novels as I need more. This one has really got me invested.
 

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So while switching from a Cruncyroll subscription through Amazon Prime to a straight subscription (see my previous post about my issues), I noticed that the subscription price is going up.

It's now both $7.99 for the lowest level through Amazon as well as direct.

Mid tier is $9.99 and I don't recall the price for the highest tier.

Didn't get a notification from Cruncyroll/Amazon on the price increase.
 

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Pluto TV has a channel dedicated to lupin 3rd and they've been rotating through the first four series and a bunch of the specials.

It's interesting watching the evolution from the 70's up to modern times, adding in cell phones and computers and what have you. Also how it flips between slapstick and serious depending on the era and certain specials.
 

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So while switching from a Cruncyroll subscription through Amazon Prime to a straight subscription (see my previous post about my issues), I noticed that the subscription price is going up.

It's now both $7.99 for the lowest level through Amazon as well as direct.

Mid tier is $9.99 and I don't recall the price for the highest tier.

Didn't get a notification from Cruncyroll/Amazon on the price increase.
CR's been $8/month for years now. But honestly, the higher tiers aren't really worth it unless you're consistently buying stuff from their merch store or watch it on several devices at once.

That said, it does look like they're jacking up the price of the annual subscription starting next January to align somewhat with the current basic tier pricing. Can't find any info on what that means for the monthly prices, but I imagine that the basic tier will probably get bumped to $10-$12/month to make the annual subs look enticing.
 

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Pluto TV has a channel dedicated to lupin 3rd and they've been rotating through the first four series and a bunch of the specials.

It's interesting watching the evolution from the 70's up to modern times, adding in cell phones and computers and what have you. Also how it flips between slapstick and serious depending on the era and certain specials.
Which series did Adult Swim localize? I remember distinctly dated animation strewn with contemporary pop culture references, like to Bill Clinton.
 

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Which series did Adult Swim localize? I remember distinctly dated animation strewn with contemporary pop culture references, like to Bill Clinton.
I remember the FLCL dub referenced Pamela Anderson

Not what you are referring to but it felt a bit dated in the 2004ish
 

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Which series did Adult Swim localize? I remember distinctly dated animation strewn with contemporary pop culture references, like to Bill Clinton.
I want to say it was the second series but it's been so long I don't recall. I do recall that happening though.
 

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I've watched the first two episodes of Laid-Back Camp (Yuru Camp) and its quite..laid back and relaxing. While they are not the same VA, the pink haired girl (Nadeshiko Kagamihara) really reminds me of Yui from K-On.
Having done a lot of camping when I was young, it was a big nostalgia trip for me, as well as “Ooooh, I wish we had that when I was camping!”
 

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Watched the live action Yu Yu Hakusho on Netflix and it was... Fine? It's only five episodes and rushed through a lot of what I remember of the series from watching it back on adult swim.

Casting looked pretty good though I think kuwabara could have been a bit bigger. Everyone seemed to get the proper mannerisms down right though. The fight scenes were decent with serviceable CGI when required. Bring so rushed though I feel there was a lot of plot that just never got explained or was explained in a blink and you miss it manner.
 

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Please tell me we get a live action scene of

I'M KUWABARA! AND IN CASE YOU GUYS FORGOT, I'VE GOT A SWORD!!

I watched through the demon tournament arc, but jumped ship a little after that. I felt like I'd gotten a bait and switch: originally it was going to be a supernatural detective series and it just turned into Dragonball With Demonghosts. Eh, still have the set on Blu-Ray. I should give it another chance.
 

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Corporate use of AI marches on...


"In an interview with technology news website The Verge on its Decoder podcast on Monday, Crunchyroll president Rahul Purini confirmed that the company is testing the use of generative A.I. (artificial intelligence) on subtitling and closed captioning. The testing is an effort to "optimize [their] processes" to allow them to release subtitles in more languages closer to the Japanese release date of seasonal anime episodes."
 
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Since Frieren season 1 is coming to a conclusion (ep 26 of 28 airing today), I'll give it another massive recommendation.

For me the quality of the animation, the superb sound track, the mix of slice of life with some amazing action, the well rounded and interesting side characters: Everything is top notch. I'd definitely vote for it being the anime of 2023 and 2024.

Also, to my huge surprise Frieren has managed to consistently hold top spot on MAL all season. It really is a top class anime that everyone should try and watch. Even today it's still #1 on MAL:

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Agreed. Frieren is very good.

You can certainly find anime with more detailed art and animation. It's trivial to find something with more and more detailed combat. What Frieren does so well is tell a multifaceted story that has elements of nostalgia and regret for the main character (the 1,000+ year old elven mage Frieren) but without it ever plowing full on into weighty, depressing melodrama.

Characters live in their present while lightly reflecting on and being influenced by their pasts. And that is kinda the core strength of the show.

The characters are pleasant. Even the tense situations have strong, delightful ties to more heartwarming moments. The show enjoys giving reason to its characters actions. And it has a calm, almost serene sense of humor that often gets a big smile from me even if it's not nearly as often generating full on LOLs.

I'd compare it to something like Jobless Reincarnation. Both do a good job with characters and world building, but Frieren maintains a healthier, more likable air while Jobless Reincarnation gets a kick out of dragging its characters into heavy troubles, letting them wallow there for a while, and eventually dragging them clear.
 
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Agreed. Frieren is very good.

You can certainly find anime with more detailed art and animation. It's trivial to find something with more and more detailed combat. What Frieren does so well is tell a multifaceted story that has elements of nostalgia and regret for the main character (the 1,000+ year old elven mage Frieren) but without it ever plowing full on into weighty, depressing melodrama.

Characters live in their present while lightly reflecting on and being influenced by their pasts. And that is kinda the core strength of the show.

The characters are pleasant. Even the tense situations have strong, delightful ties to more heartwarming moments. The show enjoys giving reason to its characters actions. And it has a calm, almost serene sense of humor that often gets a big smile from me even if it's not nearly as often generating full on LOLs.

I'd compare it to something like Jobless Reincarnation. Both do a good job with characters and world building, but Frieren maintains a healthier, more likable air while Jobless Reincarnation gets a kick out of dragging its characters into heavy troubles, letting them wallow there for a while, and eventually dragging them clear.
Frieren is very good, although I've been saving a few episodes up now to watch in one go, as I am not a fan of waiting.

Which leads me to Mushoku Tensei. I have been so impatient for that I have been reading the Light Novels, and am up to vol 24 out of 26. I don't want to spoil things too much, but while there is a lot of drama in it, after a certain point things become a lot more 'positive' IMO. There is still a lot of drama and ups and downs. but less doom, gloom and wallowing. The characters mature over time, as you would expect.

Basically once Eris comes back during Rudeus' fight with Orsted and her joining the family, his 'depression' goes away and he begins to open up more to his wives about things that are going on and they support him (as a family should). He probably should have been more open to start, but he was trying to protect them. Nothing seems earth shatteringly terrible (to him) in the way that Eris leaving him initially did. Rudeus grows as a person and breaks out of his past. Not to downplay the Man-God and Geese etc, but things that would have left him curled in a ball before are something to be overcome and dealt with, with the support of his family.

Even when Sylphie gets depressed about Seig's green hair, which is fairly understandable, it doesn't last long but also shows how they all try and act strongly to support Rudeus, even when they have their own worries.
 
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I seem to be on some romance kick at the moment, and while The Dangers in my Heart is easily the best romance anime I've seen for a long time (so good in fact I've read ahead with the manga), I just finished watch The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten. Its good, has very high reviews on Crunchyroll and again, much like Dangers it is quite wholesome.

The premise itself is a bit out there, two highschool students each living alone next door to each other. Uh huh. But apart from that, its very good and the character development is good. Again, good enough that even though I have seen there is another season of the anime coming, I decided to read the Light Novels and am almost finished on the fan translated volume 8 (the anime covers the main parts up to the end of volume 4).

What I didn't expect, was that now they are 'together', although based on what they were getting up to they already were, the light novels have gotten STEAMY. Not ero or inappropriate, but there is a lot of innocent exploration going on and wow, some scenes are fairly intense. Whereas Mushoku Tensei largely glossed over this (apart from the bit where Eris turned into a beast - awesome), The Angel Next Door is very descriptive without being pornographic.

It still isn't as believable as Dangers, considering they are both living alone, the fact they haven't started shagging like rabbits probably isn't that realistic (taking it slow is fine, I'm just not convinced that in today's world, even in Japan, waiting until marriage is likely), but it is sweet and it is a love story without being a harem or something daft.

What I have realised, is that since I took a hiatus from anime, things have changed hugely. It isn't so much that Crunchyroll is the main go to for anime, its actually more the fact that now even the more popular Light Novels are getting translations reasonably quickly and manga is being translated to English for simultaneous release with the original Japanese.

When I was watching before, this was unheard of, you would wait months for manga to get translated by an unofficial group (and years for the official version) and nobody was doing Light Novels at all.
I've gone back to some of the older stuff I watched, knowing that it continued in LN form but unfortunately most haven't been retrospectively picked up, and that I get, but even so, it is like a golden age for anime/manga, it is now so accessible and clearly those in Japan can see the huge demand for it that it is just easy to get. I don't need to trawl through various torrent sites or fansub/scanlation group sites to find bits and pieces, I can just to go to Amazon/Apple and buy it.
 

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Looks like there's finally an answer to what's happening to your digital purchases on Funimation.
Tl;Dr; get bent.
I'm not surprised really but it's still pretty shitty.

Digital purchases, people just refuse to learn. This has been happening since the DIVX player. At this point if people refuse to learn, all I can say is "Fuck 'em!". The movement towards all digital will destroy anime (and an awful lot of other things) in the long run as more and more titles become lost media when a company quits offering it.

More buy out/ consolidation news.


It is a shame but he has been fighting the good fight since 88, he has earned a retirement. Animego still has the best subtitles in the game. It would have been nice if he could have gotten a kickstarter for an Angel's Egg release before retiring. I still am pissed that listened to a clerk in Suncoast and didn't buy what I believe was Angel's Egg DVD they had because they said a lot of people had playing issues with it. It was gone the next Tuesday never to be seen again. No idea how they would have gotten Anchor Bay disks. They also boned me by asking that I not take the Trigun in the security case and accept one from behind the desk, when I got home I realized it had no foil insert so I rushed back and they were sold out.. so one of my 8 disks is missing the foil cover... this makes OCD and collector very unhappy.
I was more into Diskotek when they were destroying the value of my collection with their reissues. Now they seem to be all in on Fuck The Handicapped! (AKA sub only) so their shine has worn off. With ML boxes all the rage we have to be seconds away from someone having a trained box that can mostly do autodub.
 
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