Path of Exile 3.24 - Necropolis

Crackhead Johny

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It's actually a fun fight IMO, very gratifying once you get the hang of it. even though I suck at the memory game.

Also @Crackhead Johny can I get a guild invite at some point? I'm pretty sure my guild is more or less empty by now, and if someone starts playing I guess they can just join the Ars guild as friends. :)
I keep throwing all kinds of shit in the guild stash out of habit but it feels kinda wasteful.
Cool, what name are you playing under right now? Or I can wait to see you log on.
 

Apotheoun

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Interesting "tech" for ignite builds:

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The Searing Exarch prolif implicit, specifically. 1.7 meters is a bit larger than the Cluster Jewel, and it saves you a passive or a gem. It is the absolute top tier, so prior to this league it was prohibitively expensive to craft, but now there's a div card that gives an ilvl 100 item with a top tier implicit, so you can see these pop up on trade and then craft on them.

Comparison between 1.5 base and 1.7 base @150% AoE mod:

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It's not huge, but every little bit counts!
 

Ladnil

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Anybody here have any experience using a Boom Mace? I'm curious if the damage is noticeable or if I'd be better off just crafting on a higher pdps base weapon. Looking to play Chieftain since I've found a few solid things for SSF, brass dome, good rolled leadership's price for fire, etc. I'll be easy 90% res, and am trying to figure out where the damage comes from.

May be better off just redoing the tree into an armor stacker Jugg, but I'd like to try Chief first.
 

Apteris

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Well I was able to bump it up to 230-250M, but hot damn is it a screen killer. Routinely down to single digit frames. I wish you could turn off skill effects sometimes.
Are you already at the lowest settings and resolution?

If so, one more thing you can try (other than upgrading your PC, of course) is to turn off sounds. I noticed lagging when I bought 5-way carries in ToTA, which surprised me because I had no lagging the previous time I had bought 5-ways, in Archnemesis. Turning off sounds helped.
 

Nauls

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Are you already at the lowest settings and resolution?

If so, one more thing you can try (other than upgrading your PC, of course) is to turn off sounds. I noticed lagging when I bought 5-way carries in ToTA, which surprised me because I had no lagging the previous time I had bought 5-ways, in Archnemesis. Turning off sounds helped.
No I haven't yet. I do have the auto scaling on, which I figured was doing mostly the same thing? Maybe not. I'll definitely try cranking everything down as well as your weird sound trick!
 

Crackhead Johny

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I decided to try the league crafting. I went to path of crafting and couldn't find the grave yard crafting. So I googled it, went there, poked it at for a few seconds before giving up and not trying the mechanic. I have now made the same belt 2x after finding the rare "haunted by NAME" for 2 families.
I will go back to Youtube for an explanation of graveyard crafting, to see if I can fail at making mirror grade stuff.
 

sauth

Ars Scholae Palatinae
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I sat down with the graveyard calculators and such and... didn't have anywhere near the corpses to fully fill out a mega-craft and no desire to trade a bunch of times to get them, so I took the Craft of Exile sequence and trimmed it down to something I could actually do a few of out of my stash (including some row/column effects but not the full-power layouts by far, and making sure they were all connected - I don't thiiiiink that non-contiguous corpses get used?), slapped on as close to 200% chance to fracture as I could get (I was aiming for 2 specific haunted mods fractured to then finish crafting later), reduced the affixes by 1, and yolo'd three attempts... then bought a base that at least had one of the fractures I wanted and resolved to just live-search trade for the rest of the league because I'd rather sit on 100-120d for a base that may never get listed (similar one but triple-fractured with a good-but-useless-for-me third mod has been up for 150d, 120d, and just now down to 100d) than go through that crap again.

Blech. In theory, lots of power, but I had more fun krangling random crap in Crucible than this, in terms of "lots of power but you personally might never get there" mechanics. Good thing the base game changes included a lot of good stuff.

Aiming for a less specific craft - I think boots are pretty good for making something really solid without as much effort? - seems like the way to go.
 

Nauls

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Tried lowering all my settings to potato and turning off sounds, no luck, still really laggy when the entire screen is going nuts. My PC is far from potato, but probably CPU limited to a point (Ryzen 7 3700X). Oh well, hasn't killed me yet! 🤞

I was able to get it up to 300M/hr. My FPS readout showed 6 although the screen was all but frozen for a couple seconds at a time. Good times.
 

Nauls

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Oddly enough, the problem went away for me at some point. No idea what I did. I did have my FPS capped at 75 for some reason so I turned that off, but testing later with the cap turned back on didn't replicate what I was seeing before. The only other thing I can think of is that I updated Awakened PoE Trade around the same time, but I don't see how that could have any impact on performance.

I did make it to 100 for the first (and probably last) time in my PoE career, so I'm happy to have at least checked that box.
 

sauth

Ars Scholae Palatinae
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Really good uber lab layout for not-quite-7 hours - short and no golden key. Not sure what's actually selling quickly but Firestorm or DD for transfiguring, and Spell Echo or Multistrike for awakening (if you get VERY lucky) look like the good ones to have on hand.

Inching towards 99 on Holy Relic of Conviction (necro/poison.) Never went for the breakpoint past 82% CDR, the price/performance tradeoff stopped being appealing after 82% - right now with a 20/20 HRoC, regular L3 Empower/Enhance and +2 minion Dialla's, I can swap for either 82% CDR/30 gem level with a perfect Ashes, or move it to a green socket and do 82% CDR/27 gem level with a Defiance of Destiny. A 21/20 to push up the damage on the DoD version looks like it'd be 2.5d, but I haven't bothered yet.

Once I hit 99 I'll try some T17s again, not going to do that with >50% XP to lose.
 

teubbist

Ars Scholae Palatinae
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Grinding out the map tiers challenge and temples with Locus are still very good currency despite the reddit post highlighting it. 2-2.5 div per when selling in bulk, 2-3 temples per 4 map rotation with the scarab.

Not sure I'll do more than 38/40 challenges this league due to the conditionals and how annoying I find T17's. But maybe I'll swallow my pride and just buy some carries.

On a side note: between HH's being dirt cheap and the shrine XP strat, any hit based build with some level of clear has a pretty easy time hitting 100 this league. So if that's a goal, this would be the league.
 

teubbist

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You need at least one, but practically you want 4 to get some kind of sane drop rate. After that you need to boost map effect, quant and pack size. At a minimum, full map effect and equity on your tree and 8 mod maps should get you a T17 every 3-5 maps.

After that there are a bunch of other strats(B2B, maven and shrine scarab abuse, etc.) which can bring that up to a T17 every 1-2 maps.
 

Crackhead Johny

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You need at least one, but practically you want 4 to get some kind of sane drop rate. After that you need to boost map effect, quant and pack size. At a minimum, full map effect and equity on your tree and 8 mod maps should get you a T17 every 3-5 maps.

After that there are a bunch of other strats(B2B, maven and shrine scarab abuse, etc.) which can bring that up to a T17 every 1-2 maps.
The build I tried this league ended up as bait, as I still can't afford the Replica Dragon fang for it. It is good for maps and less so for bosses. So I have been running alch'd plateau endlessly with 2 voidstones. I'm still waiting on Divines Drop to pop as a map league thing. No luck so far.
I have made it to Maven once and that was a few leagues back. Each league seems to push end game further and further back into trade.

I consider making a new toon but hate leveling through the first 10 acts so much. I go my Falling Zombie gem. I was thinking of replica siege breaker and ignite prolif. A witch seems like it might be best but I have run lots of those. I haven't run a Chieftain and those look to be real good at surviving. Looks like Sab is good at Zombie of falling if I want to repurpose the current toon.
I saw subtractem do a "Budget" clears all build, that is not as "budget" as I can afford. I already have the spiral gem.
 

teubbist

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If you hate rerolling but want to progress in endgame then you need to be boring and do a meta leaguestart, or be very good at builds. PoE in its current form is punishing of any jank build.

If I wanted to make currency now, I'd either do beasts or harvest. The latter especially if you want to minimize trading. Fishing for a divine mod, unless you're juicing and have the right allflames, isn't going to make you rich.
 

Ladnil

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Jank builds have felt fine to me for all recent leagues, but T17s are hard enough that I haven't felt okay doing them on almost any of my characters. For a while there I was in a good groove where I could take just about any skill I want and get watchstones and tier 16 farming down, and I wasn't too pressed to move up to Ubers, and that felt fine. With T17s existing now and being a loot bonanza compared to T16, it feels wasteful to farm anything lower than that.
 

teubbist

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Or you're good at making builds and/or have some mechanical skill. Your nick does end in -il afterall, so perhaps you're a proto-Mathil.

I league started Bleed Bow Glad, a build that is acceptable but can very quickly turn jank if you don't know how to aim a channeled Puncture, follow a fairly specific passive tree or gear.

In comparison CoC DD or BAMA requires you to practically lick windows to get wrong enough that you can't do T16's.
 

teubbist

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40/40'd in the end. T17 conditionals can be "trivialised" with Dance of Destruction and the Shaper and Cortex uber conditionals proved relatively easy. I did try and fail some of the others, but decided to just buy an Exarch carry for 3 div rather than farm up more fragments for more attempts.

Rolled some Perandus jewels to rip to my standard dragon hoard, not sure what I'll do with the 11 quad tabs of remaining corpses. But I'm done for now.
 

Ladnil

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CaptainLance's latest 10 div to Ubers challenge is a Wintertide Brand Elementalist, and I am feeling quite vindicated for starting that skill this league. It's pretty strong, and it's wildly underrated because PoB doesn't give easy accurate DPS numbers. Mine was a Hierophant, so you know, not the same build, but the skill is pretty pretty good. I had cleared a couple T16s and got frustrated with bad week 1 graveyard crafts and no 6-link so I rage quit the character and rerolled explosive trap trickster, but it's definitely a skill I'd play again at some point.
 

Sunner

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Not gonna lie, all the PoE2 coverage has me pretty hyped about it. Looks great, and it fixes one of my longstanding issue with PoE in the form of sound design, skills sound punchy and crunchy as hell in 2. And the more recent footage from actual game play sessions rather than "Look at our pretty animations" demos looks a lot smoother.
Also beta in November.
 

Abe

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The auto-resummoning is cool.

It still looks like they're trying to make the minion playstyle more "active and engaging" though, which they've been trying for a while in PoE 1. People continue to find ways around that, because that's not the fucking point of minions. You choose a minion build because you want a chill, relaxing time.
Maybe you do 😛 I choose minion builds because I find something viscerally satisfying about watching swarms of things devour my enemies, and if I can be actively commanding that swarm so much the better. I much preferred D3's necro to D4's, for example.
 

Apteris

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I guess they're sending out the art from the paid way too much supporter pack from last league finally. I have a random thing on the way from them.
I don't know what you're getting, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want a big-ass painting of Solaris and Lunaris fighting. With soundtrack, if possible.