New and upcoming cooling releases (heatsink, fans, AIO)
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That's a double ball bearing fan. It should have good service life, but I really prefer FDBs or rifle bearings whenever possible. Or whatever Noctua is doing, which I guess is some kind of hybrid FDB.This was a few days ago, but Hardware Busters finally got their hands on the Arctic P12 Max and it's performance is really good, especially at the price point:
Arctic P12 Max (Black - Double Ball Bearing) Fan Review - Hardware Busters
Hardware Busters - Arctic P12 Max (Black - Double Ball Bearing) Fan Review - Coolinghwbusters.com
Power draw is a little on the high side though, which could be easily fixed with powered hubs.
(also supposedly the regular P12s have dropped in price so that's a neat side effect of the new fan release).
The colour. I don't like anything tech related the colour of
If I could have found a Noctua 4080 at MSRP, my computer would be all tan/brown. I think I've got 7 noctua fans in there [including the heatsink]. I can't stand RGB builds, and don't much care for stealth builds either.
I actually like the grey noctua redux colors, if only they werent the nerfed versions of the better models.....
(which makes them no better than most fans in the market, including arctic).
(which makes them no better than most fans in the market, including arctic).
I agree about the colours, looks like a way of getting more money out of their older tooling / upselling their latest fan revisions. Annoying, but when you have the brand name and realistically, among the best products out there, you've got to recoup that R&D somehow.
Weirdly enough, apparently the white version is FDB instead of double ball....
Arctic P12 Max Showdown - Black (DBB) vs White (FDB) - Page 10 of 10 - Hardware Busters
Hardware Busters - Arctic P12 Max Showdown - Black (DBB) vs White (FDB) - Cooling
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Not a peep about the new Arctic Liquid Freezer III?
TL;DW:
"The New Best"
Minor complaints:
TL;DW:
"The New Best"
Minor complaints:
- It comes with a contact plate for Intel (required!), which while better than the default ILM, is worse than the third party ones available.
- AMD mounting is more annoying than Intel.
- The tubes are really stiff.
That's what this thread is for - for everyone to contribute!
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Saw that review too. For AMD it looks excellent, for Intel the included contact frame seems, as said, inferior to third party ones. Glad GN got the 280mm and 360mm versions instead of the 240mm that TPU got.
Arctic Liquid Freezer III 240 Black Review - Intel Contact Frame Included
Arctic has truly hit the mark with the Liquid Freezer III 240 Black. If you're seeking exceptional performance, features, and an impressive warranty at an affordable price, then your search ends here—especially if you're planning an AMD build.
Saw that review too. For AMD it looks excellent, for Intel the included contact frame seems, as said, inferior to third party ones. Glad GN got the 280mm and 360mm versions instead of the 240mm that TPU got.
Funny thing, I ordered a Liquid Freezer II 280 last week for $82. Didn't even have a chance to install and saw the newer version released on Wednesday for $86. Placed my order for the new one and the v2 is heading back. Will be interesting to see how it compares to the H100i PRO I'm currently using on a 7700X build.
One big plus is I'll finally be RGB free...
One big plus is I'll finally be RGB free...
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Looks like we have a winner...
www.tomshardware.com
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review: This isn’t a competition. This is a massacre.
As long as it will fit in your case, this is the air cooler you should probably buy.
Title is a bit exaggerated. Yes, it's good, especially for that price.Looks like we have a winner...
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review: This isn’t a competition. This is a massacre.
As long as it will fit in your case, this is the air cooler you should probably buy.
Also from the article:
Question is, how much performance would be lost by doing this?
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/15ty6bg/13700k_tweaking_for_efficiency_frequencies_and/
Not all that much, by the look of it. GIven that gaming wants higher frequencies from fewer cores, seems like your gaming is unlikely to suffer much if at all, unless you really trim the power budget waaay back.
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO does look excellent on the Intel testbed. Haven't seen any AMD results in a brief five minute search (in particular AMD dual-chiplet would interest me, so 7900X or 7950X)...
There's a massive thread on overclock.net I haven't had time to dig into yet on them:
There's a massive thread on overclock.net I haven't had time to dig into yet on them:
I replaced my Noctua NH-U12S Redux w/ second fan with a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120. I was expecting better performance but not THAT much better. It's crazy that my top case fans rarely if ever come on anymore. That's pretty damn impressive to me because I can't stand fan noise. Even playing Aliens: Fireteam Elite which tends to ramp up my fans, it was calm and quiet and the temps were ridiculously low. Definitely a winner and I understand the hype, especially for the price. I am using AM4. For the 30ish magic beans they wanted for it, they have a fan in me and I will definitely come back if/when I need another one.
First-hand experience is good to know!
And yeah, going from a single tower 120mm to a dual tower 120mm should be significant, but the price point is damned good on the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (as well as some others from Thermalright).
And yeah, going from a single tower 120mm to a dual tower 120mm should be significant, but the price point is damned good on the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (as well as some others from Thermalright).
For people wondering, this is the Phantom Spirit noise while playing Aliens: Fireteam Elite.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsMPsSo7N0
You REALLY have to crank up your audio to hear the fan whoosh. It's barely audible.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsMPsSo7N0
You REALLY have to crank up your audio to hear the fan whoosh. It's barely audible.
Arctic Freezer 36 uses a clever fan retention method - screw heads instead of wire clips. "Launch price" shenanigans are a bit cheesy though.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Do1wXFliU
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Do1wXFliU
If you're like me and prefer a written article, the Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III 360 seems to be the focus over the 280mm, although the 280mm looks good too:
The New Best: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 & 280 CPU Cooler Review & Benchmarks | GamersNexus
Coolers The New Best: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 & 280 CPU Cooler Review & Benchmarks February 26, 2024 Last Updated: 2024-02-26 We put the Arctic Liquid Freezer III through a gauntlet of 100% fan speed, VRM thermal, pressure scan, and laser scan tests. The Highlights The Liquid Freezer III...
Arctic Freezer contact frame not the best but still an improvement over stock. Flatness of the waterblock is excellent. Pump definitely noiser than the Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II but looks like running pump at 70% speed is fine. VRM fan is improved. As an aside: did not know GN had both a hemi-anechoic chamber and a flatness scanner now. Way cool.
Noise vs. performance on dual-CCD Zen 2 processor (3950X) looks best in class as of this writing; in terms of outright performance it's not quite the leader but still excellent. GN's Intel testing is pretty limited but plenty of other sites using Intel testing out there.
Oooo will have to check later. Pricing looks good-- between this and the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO already linked earlier (i.e. Tom's Hardware), looks like we're getting some solid improvements at the more affordable end of the air cooling market (note I didn't say "cheap" or "budget" since the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO is still closer to $45 than it is to $30 or $35...).
I think the contact frame included is also plastic? Might help with overtightening (but the thermalright i got and the newer TG revisions have fixed this) butnot really a big fan of it being that material.
If the fan(s) they provide is/are decent, that's an excellent price, particularly considering inflation. It's sort of the new Hyper 212, just kicked up a couple notches. The 212s came with a shitty sleeve bearing fan, so hopefully the PS is doing better.
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review
Thermalright is on a mission to dominate the CPU air cooling market with the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO. This cooler offers top-tier performance and exceptional value, with a sleek design that, as a package, outshines the competition, making the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO a beacon of excellence in PC...
Techpowerup results for the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO are damned good.
Noctua Introduces NH-L12Sx77 Low-profile CPU cooler
Noctua today introduced its new NH-L12Sx77 low-profile CPU cooler for compact, powerful yet quiet Small Form Factor systems. The NH-L12Sx77 is a slightly taller variant of the award-winning NH-L12S, offering improved cooling performance as well as enhanced motherboard and RAM compatibility. "Our...
Noctua NH-L12Sx77 introduced, a slightly taller variant on the previous NH-L12S.
Noctua NH-D15 G2 update has quieter fans, more heatpipes, new offset design
Scheduled for release sometime this month.
Noctua NH-D15 G2 finally announced. A bit thinner, denser fin stack. 8 heat pipes, improved fans, sounds like the offset design might be like the NH-D15S? Some different bases available too.
Their performance testing is nice but their performance rating seems needlessly convoluted.
Also fun:
Noctua creates a monstrous cooler for Nvidia's GH200 Grace Hopper Superchip
CPU Cooler supports up to 1000W of total heat emission
NVIDIA GH200 cooler.
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Not quite on topic for this thread, but another thermosiphon cooler prototype, this time from Noctua.
I am very curious what they mean by this; once the cooler is installed in a case there should be no mechanical wear at all. Do they potentially mean chemical "wear" on the material of the pipes? I don't know what the coolant is in these thermosyphon systems...
I assume it’s the heat. You’re letting the liquid heat up to its boiling point so it rises up one hose, then cooling it back to a liquid to flow down the other side as I read that.
I really struggle to believe they're actually boiling water in these things, so I suppose it's some other organic solvent as the heat carrier, with a low enough boiling point to cycle at lower temperatures. Methanol might work but not sure whether anyone would want to sell a cooler full of that!
I have to assume they'd use norprene or EPDM rubber for the tubing, or something else with a PTFE lining, for chemical resistance depending on the coolant choice.
I have to assume they'd use norprene or EPDM rubber for the tubing, or something else with a PTFE lining, for chemical resistance depending on the coolant choice.
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Could be water but also at a reduced interior pressure? TBH, I have no idea what it might be. Methanol and its 148.93 degree F/64.96 degree C boiling point means it sounds potentially workable as well.
DeepCool adding a vapour chamber to the Deepcool Assassin IV, making it the DeepCool Assasin IV VC Vision (with LCD of course)? Sounds like a reasonable improvement there too.
DeepCool adding a vapour chamber to the Deepcool Assassin IV, making it the DeepCool Assasin IV VC Vision (with LCD of course)? Sounds like a reasonable improvement there too.