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I think I'm the only, or one of the few, serious electric drum kit players here. So I hope you don't mind if I intrude into your thread a little bit just to share in my gear porn. My pocket book is about to get a bit lighter. I've been waiting for Roland to come out with a sample pad that has RGB LEDs for about 3 years now. Their old one released in 2011 only had red LEDs and being able to color code your pads is a huge improvement.

 

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That's on my list of things to get soon! I sold my TD-6 several years ago and currently have a very very compact Ludwig Breakbeats set in my studio. It's supplemented by a Roland Handsonic (I use this for sketching things and recording percussion things quick), but I have utility for the SPD for hybrid drumming when I'm using sticks.

Very curious about your impressions once you get it!

Meanwhile, a few objects have found their way into my studio .. including a Mesa Mark VII head .. which should round out all my recording needs with very little overlap with the other amps (a Dr Z Maz 18 NR MkII head, a '69 Bassman 50 silverface (AB165) head, and a Rivera Quiana).
 

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I think I'm the only, or one of the few, serious electric drum kit players here
I don't know how "serious" you can count me, but I'm one! I decided on a lark to buy a TD-17KV in mid-2021 during the really harsh lockdowns we had in Sydney. Been absolutely having a blast learning to play.

Some friends and I did a "collaboration" where I played the drums: https://music.futzle.com/drivers-under-instruction/

I also recorded a little thing during my week off work this week: https://virtualwolf.org/media/posts/2499/thread#p2500
 

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I don't know how "serious" you can count me
I mean, I'm not trying to be exclusionary. I guess for reference drums are my primary instrument and I've basically not touched my acoustic set since I got my TD50 KV2 setup a little more than 2 years ago, including live bar classic/modern rock gigs. It's what I play, all the time.

I've wanted a sample pad for fun and giggles to do "outside the box" stuff with loops and effects. I'm not sure how much use it would actually get live, but I'd absolutely plan on using it as a compact kit for acoustic gigs or even family get togethers if someone pulls out a guitar.
 
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That's on my list of things to get soon! I sold my TD-6 several years ago and currently have a very very compact Ludwig Breakbeats set in my studio. It's supplemented by a Roland Handsonic (I use this for sketching things and recording percussion things quick), but I have utility for the SPD for hybrid drumming when I'm using sticks.

Very curious about your impressions once you get it!

Meanwhile, a few objects have found their way into my studio .. including a Mesa Mark VII head .. which should round out all my recording needs with very little overlap with the other amps (a Dr Z Maz 18 NR MkII head, a '69 Bassman 50 silverface (AB165) head, and a Rivera Quiana).
Been watching a looooot of videos tonight. I think the new SPD SX pro has a bit of the apple-like "Roland tax". It's good, it's better, it's still a little over priced. So depending on what you need, and if money is an issue, you might want to pick up the non-pro version, or even snag a used one as I would guess there would be an increase of them on the market.

Sounds like it's everything the old one was and then some with an exception about how using a loop works and then changing it's temp after the fact. I'm still not sure what the difference is there and there's some hope they'll patch it in, but I guess right now the new one doesn't do it. I guess it's polarizing as a lot of people never used the feature but some can't live without it.

Major improvements include more trigger inputs, the re-addition of HH control pedal, RGB LEDs (these are not a vanity thing when you're constantly changing what your pads do and the colors give you an indication of that), mostly better and faster UI including color screen, and apparently really really good software that lets you manage it live from your PC. It also has some great technical pad grouping and triggering options such as linking more pads together, sequencing pads, forcing a loop or sample to start on a specified beat even if you trigger a little early (or late? Not sure), and that sort of stuff.

A couple caveats - the HH control is just open/closed binary. No half open options. That's better than a kick in the pants, but c'mon Roland it's 2023. You can do better. Also, the integrated sounds have been criticized as being the same old stale sounds Roland has been using since 20 years ago, which I wouldn't call garbage but not very "real" sounding. Now, you can load whatever you want into it, but if you're looking to just plug and play looking for a more acoustic sound out of the box, beware.

The Alesis competitor (strike multipad I think) seems to have a better tone bank out of the box by some opinions. It also has one feature Roland doesn't - live lopping. That's another thing I hope they patch in, but apparently Roland doesn't really let you do live looping stuff. That said there is a huge drawback with the Alesis as it takes multiple seconds of silence to switch between kits and any long sustained sound will die in the process. The roland you can switch fast enough to do it in the middle of a song and any sustained note plays to the end when you switch. That's not a new feature though.

I still haven't touched any of them myself, but if you're looking at any I hope that helps. If you really want better organic drum sounds out of the box or want to do live loops Alesis might be a better option, but even with the live loops my natural next step would be to take that and feed it into the next kit and Alesis chokes when you swap kits so.... But if you're willing to load your own samples, can live with the "meh" stock sounds, want want to load your own samples, or are just using as a midi rig, or using it for more studio work, or if you're a non-drummer using it to supplement your main instruments - the latest Roland really has a lot more power and features. If you can drop the money. Which... I'm probably doing because black friday cuts like $300 off.
 

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I just have the Alesis Nitro Mesh set. Nothing too special, I mostly just wanted something I could practice with and do some MIDI inputs (I'm definitely not a drummer). It also is something the kiddos can practice on if they ever want to start learning drums.

I'm back and forth about convincing myself to get a baritone guitar. I've been interested in the PRS SE 277 for a while now, but even though it's on sale, I'm having doubts because I haven't been spending much time playing my current guitars and I don't want to buy something that I'll barely play (due to time constraints).
 

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I guess I'm just boring now. I have zero desire to buy anything new guitar-wise; I've got my Spear electric, my Republic Duolian resonator, and my Guild acoustic.

Amusingly enough, 2 of 3 of those are discontinued; The Spear is an LP-style body with an old man's face engraved into it, and the Guild is a Westerly factory build.
 

Resonant Rationale

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I guess I'm just boring now. I have zero desire to buy anything new guitar-wise; I've got my Spear electric, my Republic Duolian resonator, and my Guild acoustic.

Amusingly enough, 2 of 3 of those are discontinued; The Spear is an LP-style body with an old man's face engraved into it, and the Guild is a Westerly factory build.
Sounds like a perfect mix to me. Have you shared a picture of the Spear? I think I'm done with new stuff now (I need to be) but I will keep my eyes open for cheap project guitars. I really enjoy putting in the time with them.
 

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She's pretty!

Curious as to the customizations. Does that setup/color combo signify anything, or just something you like?
I knew I would want to switch out the bridge pickup. I saw that Seymour Duncan pickups are offered in that custom baby blue color, and decided some blue accents would compliment the "charcoal quilt" color nicely. It's a JB pickup. So I guess it's just happenstance based on my pickup choice.

I'm actually super disappointed in the tuner buttons - they are not at all the color of figured turquoise I ordered, and they were not cheap. Buyer beware.
 
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Sounds like a perfect mix to me. Have you shared a picture of the Spear? I think I'm done with new stuff now (I need to be) but I will keep my eyes open for cheap project guitars. I really enjoy putting in the time with them.
Need to clean her up; been a while since I've played (hoping to do some studio work over the holidays though):

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I guess I'm just boring now. I have zero desire to buy anything new guitar-wise; I've got my Spear electric, my Republic Duolian resonator, and my Guild acoustic.

Amusingly enough, 2 of 3 of those are discontinued; The Spear is an LP-style body with an old man's face engraved into it, and the Guild is a Westerly factory build.
I don't see that as boring. While I could justify myself into a Stingray bass, I don't have the desire to because my three basses cover the sounds/ranges I want (Squier fretless, ESP 4-string, and Stage-branded knock-off Music Man 5-string). I'm probably too nostalgic about them, since I'm not sure I could bring myself to sell any of them. My Ibanez Artcore covers electric guitar well enough, and I've got a Washburn acoustic for that side.

I'd like to add a baritone guitar because I feel like it would be fun and expand my musical range. But, I'm going to hold off for now, since I don't play my guitars often enough. I'll just be jealous of seeing someone else getting a PRS :biggreen:

I mostly have a desire to get instruments that expand my repertoire, hence the theremin I bought several months ago...

EDIT to add: I suppose I do have one more bass I want to add to my collection, but I want to do a custom build from Warmoth or the like. I would only want to do it once, though, so it'll be a combination of too much research and saving money to get everything exactly as I want it.
 

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What are the pickups?
Some SDs that the guitar was manufactured with; Don't know much about them, but the sound is just so damned versatile. I've played jazz, blues, country and metal with this guitar, and it just works.

I'd like to add a baritone guitar because I feel like it would be fun and expand my musical range. But, I'm going to hold off for now, since I don't play my guitars often enough. I'll just be jealous of seeing someone else getting a PRS :biggreen:
Which reminds me, I also have an SX bass that I use for studio stuff.

I used to have an old Ibanez budget guitar (my first electric, actually) that I converted into a baritone; was a lot of fun. Ended up flipping it for more than what I paid.

I do occasionally miss my Ibanez Artcore and Fender Mexi Tele.. Oh, and my somewhat internet famous BC Rich Bich:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyvN0LzXxrI


That guitar ended up getting torn apart to build a cigar box lap guitar that I ended up giving as a white elephant gift, lol.
 

Resonant Rationale

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I don't see that as boring. While I could justify myself into a Stingray bass, I don't have the desire to because my three basses cover the sounds/ranges I want (Squier fretless, ESP 4-string, and Stage-branded knock-off Music Man 5-string). I'm probably too nostalgic about them, since I'm not sure I could bring myself to sell any of them. My Ibanez Artcore covers electric guitar well enough, and I've got a Washburn acoustic for that side.

I'd like to add a baritone guitar because I feel like it would be fun and expand my musical range. But, I'm going to hold off for now, since I don't play my guitars often enough. I'll just be jealous of seeing someone else getting a PRS :biggreen:

I mostly have a desire to get instruments that expand my repertoire, hence the theremin I bought several months ago...

EDIT to add: I suppose I do have one more bass I want to add to my collection, but I want to do a custom build from Warmoth or the like. I would only want to do it once, though, so it'll be a combination of too much research and saving money to get everything exactly as I want it.
Very much this. Different types of instruments inspire you in different ways. I have a hard time understanding why someone would want 15 Les Paul Customs in the same basic finish. I guess that is the difference between a collector and a lover of music/instruments in general.
 

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Instead of adding real-life instruments, I've been adding plugins for music production. I know there's a recommendation that you have someone else mix and master your music, but that's outside the realm of affordability for something that I couldn't guarantee will sell well (or at all). I've picked up the upgrade for Celemony's Melodyne to go from Essential to Assistant. I also picked up Native Instrument's Creative Mix Bundle with iZotope's VocalSynth 2, Stutter Edit 2, Neoverb, and Neutron 4 Elements.

I'm hoping to be able to do some neat stuff with the iZotope plugins. I'll eventually need to learn mastering, and I'm debating on if Ozone 11 Elements will help, or maybe there's some free plugins that would work just as well.
 

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.. If I had a dollar for every time I've felt (or even said) that, I'd have a lot more gear. :p
In my case, though, I used to crave new gear.

Although I just remembered.. about the only thing I'm "craving" is I told a buddy of mine who owns a music gear store that if he got a Boss FZ-2 Hyperfuzz in (he does resale on top of new) I'd buy it, but that's just because I used to own one and really want it for my industrial stuff again.
 
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There's that crack in the facade. :p

I'm being facetious, of course. It's been close to 30 years of doing this and GAS never goes into remission, even though it might have dormant periods between flare-ups.
I think that's the kicker: GearAS manifests itself in different ways for everyone. For some, it may be the guitars. For others, the accessories!
 

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See, I would like to purchase a new amp. I know the one. Not a lot of gain but headroom for miles. I know if I buy the amp I'm going to need to add some pedals to get it sounding like I want. Then I'm building a pedal board. Next thing you know I'm living in a storage shed with all the gear...
 

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See, I would like to purchase a new amp. I know the one. Not a lot of gain but headroom for miles. I know if I buy the amp I'm going to need to add some pedals to get it sounding like I want. Then I'm building a pedal board. Next thing you know I'm living in a storage shed with all the gear...

That's why I bought a Boss Katana. :)
 

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Yup, G = gear.

In my case that's usually more often pedals, studio shit, plugins, accessories, amps, more than guitars themselves anymore. The guitar and amp things are the most deliberately acquired things anymore. But .. other shit .. yeah ..
Sorry, I've also heard it referred to as Guitar Acquisition Syndrome so wanted to specify.
 

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That's why I bought a Boss Katana. :)
Can an expression pedal be used with that? I don't know anything about pedals and stuff. But I think with the effects processors you can set the pedal to control different effects, is that right? Like when playing "The Rumble" could you turn the vibrato way up at the end?

I still have not pulled the trigger on any gear, just playing through a little 15w Crate.
 

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Can an expression pedal be used with that? I don't know anything about pedals and stuff. But I think with the effects processors you can set the pedal to control different effects, is that right? Like when playing "The Rumble" could you turn the vibrato way up at the end?

I still have not pulled the trigger on any gear, just playing through a little 15w Crate.

Yes, though there are different versions of the Katana and the "lower end" ones skimp on connections; their basic 50w has connections for EITHER a footswitch OR an expression pedal. There are workarounds, of course, or you just spend a little more to get the "nicer" models which support both simultaneously.
 
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Seems like the 50w MkII EX would be the sweet spot for me, $300ish and two foot controllers. I like the memory functions... the more I read the more I like.

It's a great amp, honestly (I'm using the MkI 50w 1x12, so no expression pedal or external FX loop for me), and there are TONS of patches out there for it if you don't want to build your own. And if you're going to build your own, there are a couple of options (the BOSS Tone Studio is... okay, but there's a 3rd party one that shows your FX as stompboxes on your PC screen and you can drag/drop them around, and then there's an Android app you can connect right to the amp and make changes that way).

And it's a decently-loud 50 watts, too. The thing I like most though is there's a "watt setting," where you can change the output level of your amp (ie, .5 watt, 25 watt, 50 watt) so in a "practice" situation in your room, you could set it to .5 watt and still crank the thing, instead of having to dial the volume back and not "push" the amp.

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Very nice.
 

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And it's a decently-loud 50 watts, too. The thing I like most though is there's a "watt setting," where you can change the output level of your amp (ie, .5 watt, 25 watt, 50 watt) so in a "practice" situation in your room, you could set it to .5 watt and still crank the thing, instead of having to dial the volume back and not "push" the amp.
Yeah my Oranger Rocker 15 Combo has a similar thing and it's so damn handy.
 
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