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cateye

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I really recommend trying an Ultra on before you buy. I was very interested in the Ultra as an upgrade from a Series 6 earlier this year, but as much as I liked a lot about it, I just couldn’t get used to the chonk after like half a dozen visits to the Apple Store to try it on and wander around a bit (they really were ridiculously accommodating). That and the fact that Series 9 is discounted All. The. Time. lately. 25% off is not uncommon, which is hard to resist if you’re a value shopper at all.

I don’t regret getting a 9 instead and it still feels like a solid upgrade, if not as physically obvious of one. And I paid a lot less.
 

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Watch Ultra owners: What, if any, benefits are there over the regular Watch if you don’t dive/climb/etc?
It’s been said, but for me screen size alone was worth the price of admission. It doesn’t sound that much bigger (49mm vs. 45mm) but for me at least it’s the difference between the on screen keyboard being pleasant to use and not.

And the battery life really is out of this world relative to other Apple Watches. I don’t worry at all about going camping for a weekend with it.

YMMV but I got used to the chonk really quickly. The weight was entirely unnoticeable to me by day 2.
 

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YMMV but I got used to the chonk really quickly. The weight was entirely unnoticeable to me by day 2.
One thing to note is I almost exclusively use a light silicone sports band, with the occasional (also pretty light) leather cuff. If you’re using a link band obviously the weight would be more and potentially in that scenario the heavier watch would be the straw that breaks the camel’s… er… wrist. Definitely try it on with the heaviest band you intend to use with it.
 

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Definitely try it on with the heaviest band you intend to use with it.
I’ve yet to acquire an Ultra but during an extended in-store try on using my own stainless steel Leatherman Tread band the Ultra was indistinguishable on the wrist (weight wise)from the stainless S3 model I currently wear daily. Make the band heavy enough and Watch rides free. 😉 (I do have lessor bands for dressier occasions.)

As KefkaFloyd points out, I am somewhat accustomed to tool watches. The stainless watch/multi tool band was a deliberate choice. I missed the experience of a substantial watch while wearing the O.G. and various lighter bands. (Plus, with the Tread onboard, I always have a tripod wrench.)
 

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Do people wear those heavy dive watches for daily use?
Go to any large city and count the Rolexes, the vast majority of which will be stainless steel Submariners on bracelets, around 200g. Sea Dwellers and Deep Seas weigh a bit more.

So, yes, people do wear them, all the time, all day every day. Thing is, they’re not heavy heavy. They weigh a couple of hundred grammes, not half a kilo.

I often wear an Omega Planet Ocean which is about 250g all up, and I honestly don’t notice it.
 
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Do people wear those heavy dive watches for daily use?

What Señor Commander said, plus: It depends where you live. Here in Colorado, for every one person I see wearing an Ultra, I probably see ten people wearing one of those massive Garmin über outdoor watches. Like the Epix, et al. It's like wearing a dinner plate on your wrist. Not necessarily the same as a bespoke dive watch, but they make the Ultra look positively diminutive and yet they're everywhere.

It comes down to personal preference, really. It wasn't so much the size across of the Ultra, but its height that I found difficult to get used to—I am probably too accommodated to how flat a regular Apple Watch is, and never regularly wore a watch before getting an Apple Watch so I don't have experience with something heavier or chonkier to compare to. But I'm sure it's a non-issue for most.
 

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That's if you're not getting mugged for the Rolexes?
People take expensive things out in public all the time. Outside of the nerdosphere, people wear their Rolexes (and Omegas, and Hublots, and etc etc etc) as their primary watch, all the time.

Of course there are places where it’s unwise to wear a flashy watch (including an Apple Watch, eff why eye), but those are the same places where it’s unwise to drive a nice car, or wear nice trainers.

But you go into central London, which is not one of those places, and you will see a lot (a LOT) of expensive watches*, if you know what you’re looking for.

*TBH, a lot of expensive everything
 
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But you go into central London, which is not one of those places, and you will see a lot (a LOT) of expensive watches*, if you know what you’re looking for.
If you know what you’re looking for you might even spot watches that make you rethink using Rolex as your archetype of expensive watch.
 

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Watch Ultra owners: What, if any, benefits are there over the regular Watch if you don’t dive/climb/etc?

I’m probably updating from my S5 this year, just so I can use the upcoming workout rest days feature (sigh). I’m marginally interested in an Ultra, just to get slightly longer update support (I wouldn’t otherwise replace my S5 unless the releases this year do something really special), but since I’m not a diver or similarly involved sport person, it’s not clear what other benefit there would be besides longer battery life (which isn’t an issue on my S5 with 82% battery health, anyway).

I switched to the Ultra from a Series 2 for:

  • Larger screen for my old man eyes
  • Brighter and daylight-readable
  • Sapphire crystal screen since I am rough on my watches and my previous watch was all scratched up.
  • Action button, which I set up to start workouts
  • Battery life

As for the weight, I don't notice it, nor the chonk either.
 

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I switched to the Ultra from a Series 2 for:

  • Larger screen for my old man eyes
  • Brighter and daylight-readable
  • Sapphire crystal screen since I am rough on my watches and my previous watch was all scratched up.
  • Action button, which I set up to start workouts
  • Battery life

As for the weight, I don't notice it, nor the chonk either.
The sapphire crystal is 100% worth the upgrade to the stainless steel case. The edges of the glass on all of my Aluminum cased watches always got scuffed and I’d pick up some fairly deep scratches on the face. I’ll probably keep the stainless steel watch twice as long because the screen still looks perfect. As I preferentially get the smaller Apple watch, I don’t think I’d be happy with the ultra.
 
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If you know what you’re looking for you might even spot watches that make you rethink using Rolex as your archetype of expensive watch.

When I was in college, my then girlfriend’s father was coming to visit Philadelphia. Knowing he was a serious watch collector™, I asked her to please dissuade him from bringing/wearing an expensive watch.

After he arrived, we all went to dinner, he thanked me for caring, and excitedly showed me the watch he wore just based on my advice. It was a Rolex Submariner.

When I told my girlfriend that his watch was still pretty expensive, she told me that he probably was going bring a Patek perpetual calendar.

Later during that same trip, I offered to drive him to the suburbs to deposit the $10k he brought in cash for his daughter. “I wouldn’t want you to get robbed.” “Who would rob someone over so little money?”

Rich people, man.
 

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When the Ultra was released I decided that for me it was too large, too heavy. However, as other posts, including some on this page, have commented, it is not desperately large compared to a lot of other watches out there. I saw two today that were probably 50% larger than an ultra. And, to my mind, ugly. Not that I am going to go ultra any time soon, but maybe, maybe, come upgrade time :).
 

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Quick question: When Apple themselves perform a battery exchange service, is the water resistance still intact?
I believe Apple has the tools, and adhesive gasket, necessary to properly reseal the Watch after a battery change…but I don't know that they do a tank test. Battery service for an Apple Watch is less expensive than what I've paid for my Luminox and Citizen dive watches in the past. (Of course, your Series 6 isn't a "dive" watch anyway.) I'm also unclear as to whether or not Apple replaces the battery in your watch or just does a service exchange with a refurbished watch. I may find out soon though — I'm considering sending the S3 in while they're still offering service.
 

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I'd love to try an ultra, but I tend to see these watches as disposables and my sweet spot has always (so far) been Nike version watches in the cheapest variant (no cellular, no premium watch band). Took a few years to spin up, but apple watches have been great devices! My only big dissatisfaction has been Siri, as in how to enable it or use it successfully (it usually just fails).

I do see tiny/minor scratches on them after a while, but in general they're OK despite daily use. Looking forward to see how they evolve next!
 
I’m generally pro-patina but a tiny scratch in just the right (wrong) place on a watch crystal is a non-starter.
After scratching the hell out of my unscratchable space black case and sapphire screen* (thanks, rock climbing gym!**) I've just gone with refurb/open box Nike ones 🤷‍♂️. I think that's just a Nike strap these days vs separate models though, so no need now vs just wanting the extra faces before.

My S5 has been dying for a while, been using it with the always on screen off for months just to make the battery usable all dayish again. Battery health annoyingly shows like 81% iirc. Course there's also cosmetic damage and have AC on it, so should really get that (and my similarly worn iPhone 13 mini) swapped some time. Still want a new watch regardless, tempting to jump if there's a cheap enough S9 or wait to see what they do for 10. Or Ultra.

*original first gen, hopefully things are more resistant since then?

**I'm a better climber since then (...and don't go as often) so less likely to get in the same situation...but did crack another watch at the gym too, in a different way. Scratch = high pressure grind against the wall, crack = errant arm flail into protruding hold right on the glass.
 
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scratching the hell out of my unscratchable space black case and sapphire screen* (thanks, rock climbing gym!**) I've
The stuff of artificial climbing walls rates way up on the Moh’s scale. I used work at an REI that had one that left quite an impression on my Bertucci field watch. I wasn’t even climbing at the time - I just got too close. Whether by fortune or design, my S3 remained unscathed. (Can’t say the same for the band though. Patina embraced.)
 
The stuff of artificial climbing walls rates way up on the Moh’s scale. I used work at an REI that had one that left quite an impression on my Bertucci field watch. I wasn’t even climbing at the time - I just got too close. Whether by fortune or design, my S3 remained unscathed. (Can’t say the same for the band though. Patina embraced.)
Yeah kinda figured that, so also wondered would newer/better DLC/sapphire even make a difference when it comes to those walls?

For the most part the sapphire was fine otherwise. I think I did have one random light scratch that I can't remember at all what it was from. On my glass ones there's been only a few light scratches of varying noticeability, I think maaaybe one really light one that was big...or that was the crack, I forget.
 
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yeah, I concur about pro-patina but a wrongly placed minor scratch can ruin the party. I think the aluminum cased apple watches are a good compromise in terms of durability, and they offer the steel for the fancier folks. I'm sure the ceramic ones were neat too. I think I like how most of the watches share the same features so until the Ultra there wasn't a lot of upsell beyond materials/feel/durability.

And yes, starting series 7 or 8 the nike version was just the band selection, with the watch faces open to everybody. Which is great, because I still can't quit the old-school Nike watch faces in Volt. I've tried :-/