PSA: Furiosa is great

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Couldn’t find a thread on this, probably because nobody is watching this movie it seems. But I loved Furiosa and I’ll probably go see it again. Personally, I liked it more than Dune Part 2, and probably more than Fury Road. I was feeling kinda lazy and was inclined to wait to watch it on streaming in a couple of months, but I’m very glad I didn’t.
 

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Loved it! Didn't think it was quite as good as Fury Road (an almost impossible task), but I liked it better than Dune 2. The highest possible recommendation comes from my kid, who immediately after the movie said, "OK, I need to see all the Max Max movies now."

Anya Taylor-Joy was terrific. She'd make a great Terminator some day, but first I want to see her do something completely different from the cold-eyed alien thing, like take the lead in a musical rom-com or sports movie or something.

Chris Hemsworth was a ton of fun. I particularly enjoyed his silly voice and propensity to just never...stop...talking. And I really want a three motorcycle-drawn chariot.

I really missed Hugh Keays-Byrne as Immortan Joe, but he was obviously sadly unavailable.
 
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I did not like it more than Fury Road (which I absolutely loved) but there is zero shame there. Overall I found it to be excellent, really no complaints at all.* The war rig was awesome, the chases were great, both Furiosas were awesome, and Chris Hemsworth++

Sad to see the box office numbers so low, but I think that's more a sign of the times than a reflection on Furiosa? There might have been 30 people in the whole place, but then it was one of a dozen showings that day at just that particular theater.

* OK, one minor quibble - what happened to Scrotus between Furiosa and Fury Road? Maybe I killed him in the video game, my bad...
 

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Scabrous Scrotus is the main villain in Mad Max, yes. He's the guy with the chainsaw blade stuck in his head.
Yeah I know, it was a bit of a joke...just seemed a bit odd to have all the usual suspects back again in Furiosa and then an extra son that I don't recall mentioned in Fury Road. My memory of the video game is that it was considered "non-canon" relative to the movies.
 

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Yeah I know, it was a bit of a joke...just seemed a bit odd to have all the usual suspects back again in Furiosa and then an extra son that I don't recall mentioned in Fury Road. My memory of the video game is that it was considered "non-canon" relative to the movies.
I read that it was non-canon for all of the fetch quests and side quests, but canon for the death of Hope, Glory, and Scrotus, part of why Max was the way he was at the start of the film, and the redemption of Max at the end of it.
 
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I saw it and enjoyed it.

I feel like they put a little too much effort into giving backstory and motivation instead of just having pure characters and their actions like Fury Road did.

And there was some poor CGI, but it wasn't important enough to ruin the movie.
I think the main issue with it seeming like it has more CGI than Fury Road is that they shot it in Australia rather than Namibia. So pretty much every outdoor shot has CGI manipulating the background to look like Namibia, removing green shrubs etc. So it’s a whole extra layer of manipulation on top of whatever is going on with the vehicles and stunts, which I think in fact probably aren’t much different to Fury Road. In contrast, Fury Road is full of these gorgeous shots with untouched wilderness and sand dunes behind the action, with beautiful lighting most of the time (shooting near dusk as much as possible), so the reality is really sold to your eyeballs.
 
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Saw it yesterday with a friend, really enjoyed it. I thought Anya seemed a little...slight? physically to match up to Charlize's Furiosa, but I didn't feel any of that while watching it. They also did a really good job progressively blending Anya's face with Alyla's as she ages up. Hemsworth's Dementus voice sounded surprisingly similar to Ledger's Joker, which I liked quite a bit.
 

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Sad to see the box office numbers so low, but I think that's more a sign of the times than a reflection on Furiosa? There might have been 30 people in the whole place, but then it was one of a dozen showings that day at just that particular theater.
Theater attendance is still depressed since COVID, and the fact that movies - even huge releases like Dune 2 - are showing up on streaming soon enough after release just reinforces the decision to watch it at home. Even my wife and I have very often opted to just rent/buy a movie once it releases on Prime rather than figure out the logistics of hiring a sitter for the night.
 

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Theater attendance is still depressed since COVID, and the fact that movies - even huge releases like Dune 2 - are showing up on streaming soon enough after release just reinforces the decision to watch it at home. Even my wife and I have very often opted to just rent/buy a movie once it releases on Prime rather than figure out the logistics of hiring a sitter for the night.
Yup, I am generally on that train as well. Just happened that my son and I had a boys weekend available (and with no sports events, somehow!) so it was a nice excuse to get out of the house. And, with a movie like this, I'm willing to make a trip to see it on a big screen.
 

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Anya Taylor-Joy was terrific. She'd make a great Terminator some day, but first I want to see her do something completely different from the cold-eyed alien thing, like take the lead in a musical rom-com or sports movie or something.
She was quite good in Emma, and about as far from a cold-eyed alien as you can get in terms of role.
 

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Saw it today. Honestly, a little disappointed.

To be clear, it was enjoyable. If you're not picky, go see it in the theater. I enjoyed it.

That said,

* The bad CGI was immersion-breaking and pervasive, which was a disappointment compared to the practical effects and invisible CGI of the previous movie.

* I could see what they were trying to do with the narrative and the movie actually does better than average as far as "show, don't tell" goes. However, it still has quite a lot of exposition compared to the previous movie.
 

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It's not the total amount of CGI that is imperfect, it's the frequency and timing of it, really.

Like, they'll have awesome scenes that involve practical (or convincingly so) cars, then zoom out onto a vast landscape that has the silhouette of a dirtbike rider that is a) the focus of your eyes in the scene and b) quite obviously CGI because it's not moving right.
 

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Saw it today. Really enjoyed it. It lacks the visceral punch of Fury Road, because you're never going to see that for the first time again, and they could definitely have trimmed ~20min from the running time… but I think that would have been a matter of judicious pruning, rather than excising a big, flabby chunk.

Overall, it's a really good movie — it looks great, there were several bits where I drew breath at the absolute loveliness of the visuals (even if they're depicting something pretty horrible) and a fair few 'OOF' moments in the action sequences, which are plentiful. If you have the chance, go and see it on a big screen — like Fury Road, it won't be the same at home.
 

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I saw it today. Yup, liked it. I agree with the general consensus that it's no Fury Road, and Taylor-Joy was perfectly fine but no Charlize Theron, either. The ending dragged a little... and I gotta say, I'm not sure about intercutting scenes from Fury Road with the credits.

Hemsworth doing his best "Jack Sparrow of the Wasteland". I guess I appreciate that he fits in the mold of "flamboyant and memorable bad guys" but does something a little different by being... kinda jolly?

For those who saw it, two minor questions I'd be curious if anyone had thoughts on.

a. So, was Dementus actually really bad at running Gastown, or was all of that a long con to facilitate his capture of the Bullet Farm? Narratively, you can read him as being out of his depth- I liked the failed "siege" of the Citadel early on, punishing him for his impulsiveness and arrogance. But he followed that up with a cunning ploy and a willingness to sacrifice his own men, so... I mean, it doesn't really matter one way or the other, and maybe there's not really a consistent character in there at all. But it is sorta interesting for the character: is he a schemer hiding behind a bozo exterior, or is he a bozo who's just a genius at salvaging opportunities out of failures?
b. Did Mad Max rescue Furiosa after she lost her arm and deposit her with the Citadel? I recall seeing a spoiler to that effect on Reddit before I saw the movie, so when I saw the shot of Max with the last of the V8 interceptors seeing her wander wounded in the valley below, I was primed to assume that was the case... but on the other hand (no pun intended) there's not much evidence for him doing that either.
 

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I liked this movie so much. I liked it enough that I'll make a place for it on my (imaginary) top shelf, next to Mad Max: Fury Road, Interstellar, and (many) others.

I'm not very interested in the question of which is better between Furiosa and Fury Road, a) because comparison is the thief of joy, and b) because Furiosa did so well at expanding the story of the characters and of the world. There were the characters we knew from the first movie, there was the green place, there was that shot of Max which was both good fan service and made sense in context. I understand this character better than I did before. I like her better, if that was even possible.

I liked how serious this movie was. Most of the action scenes were without the bombastic music of the first. Dementus's forced levity not really elevating the mood. Opening scenes, Furiosa's group gets killed, their horses butchered for meat, herself captured. And then the deadly motivated pursuit (as it would be) of the kidnappers by Furiosa's mom. And then the other pursuit, where Furiosa's mom gets captured and crucified. And then Furiosa has to survive by her wits and grit at the Citadel, also not a very fun time. And then, and then, and then.

It almost makes one want to avoid the apocalypse.

Taylor-Joy was good, Hemsworth was good, Tom Burke (Praetorian Jack, the love interest) was good. And last but not least, the screen and sound of a good cinema were made for this type of movie.
 

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Saw it today. Honestly, a little disappointed.

To be clear, it was enjoyable. If you're not picky, go see it in the theater. I enjoyed it.

That said,

* The bad CGI was immersion-breaking and pervasive, which was a disappointment compared to the practical effects and invisible CGI of the previous movie.

* I could see what they were trying to do with the narrative and the movie actually does better than average as far as "show, don't tell" goes. However, it still has quite a lot of exposition compared to the previous movie.

This exactly. It was a great film, but it doesn't stand a chance next to Fury Road. It didn't help that they mixed Fury Road scenes (and spoilers) into the end credits so you could see how much better the CGI and cinematography was in that movie.

The origin of Furiosa was masterfully done, but I just have a personal problem with origin stories for characters that are supposed to be mysterious. I liked it better when she was just this badass with a missing arm who somehow avoided becoming a milk cow or wife. The Star Wars Solo movie was kind of the same way--I just didn't need to see Han win the Falcon in a card game, and I didn't need the retconned Kessel Run. It's as if these events were already spoiled.

Anya was good, Hemsworth and Alyla were great. Absolutely worth seeing on the big screen, just know it's not quite Fury Road.
 

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I liked it better when she was just this badass with a missing arm who somehow avoided becoming a milk cow or wife.
Agreed. They dotted too many Is and Ts, and tied it up tight as a bow. The best part of Fury Road was that Furiosa's backstory wasn't fully explained. There was mystery there. Furiosa (the film) goes out of its way to connect us directly to Fury Road, and basically hand-waves that in-between time when she would have just been serving as an Imperator. And that shot of Max on the ridge just doesn't make sense to me. Max is a wanderer. He wouldn't be anywhere near that place when Furiosa returns to The Citadel. There's years of story that we just skip over, all for what? A credit sequence that literally shows the events of Fury Road?
 
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They dotted too many Is and Ts, and tied it up tight as a bow. The best part of Fury Road was that Furiosa's backstory wasn't fully explained. There was mystery there. Furiosa (the film) goes out of its way to connect us directly to Fury Road
This is a matter of personal preference, so fair enough. I myself like the mystery some times and like to have the full explanation at other times. Fury Road was the second half of Furiosa's arc, and I like that we now have the first half as well.

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You know what I didn't like in Fury Road, though? At the end of the movie, having reliably established that the Citadel is the only reliable source of food and water in a radius of 1,000 miles (if not more), and having overthrown its evil ruler, and having made a genuine connection with the baddest woman in the hemisphere, and having perhaps achieved -- as he said it -- a measure of redemption, Max decides "nah, why stay here, I'mma head back out into the desert." Dude, just take the win.
 

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There's an article up about the vfx on furiosa if anyone is interested


There's a quote in there about the climax of one of the action scenes
The octopus kite was based on a kite from a Festival of the Winds event held at Bondi Beach, advises Jackson. DNEG then rigged it like a creature–indeed, combining it with the Bommy Knocker was a major challenge for the VFX studio, notes Bethell. “Working out how to entangle and snare this kite, pull in all the ropes and the rigging and then shred it was a massive undertaking. Lots of people spent a lot of time iterating and experimenting and researching all of that

I can personally attest to "lot of time iterating and experimenting and researching". It can be really interesting working on effects that don't have a real-life equivalent, don't necessarily have reference for how they should look, and take lots of people working together to try and make something that plausibly looks real
 
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