Can you place two access points side-by-side?

I have two access points connecting back to two different wired network back-ends. One of them is using channel 1 for 2.4GHz, channel 161 for 5GHz. The other one is using Channel 6 for 2.4GHz and Channel 36 for 5Ghz. 2.4GHz channels are 20MHz wide, 5GHz channels are 80MHz wide.

They are also currently sitting approximately 2-3 inches apart.

Is there any reason I should move them further apart? If so, what is the minimum safe distance for APs with non-overlapping channels?
 

Kyuu

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Are you experiencing any issues with the wifi with that setup?

As a general rule, I would normally say to keep two transmitters in the same band, even if they're using different channels, as far apart as is practical. At a minimum, at least one antenna-length apart. If they do not have external antennas, then just assume it's the length of the chassis and use that for spacing.

But if it's working fine as-is and you can't or don't want to adjust the spacing, then just roll with it.
 
I'm not really noticing any issues TBH, but I also don't want to make some sort of boneheaded mistake that I don't notice 99% of the time and just comes along and ruins my day years down the road. Just wanted to know if I was violating some best practice.

Mostly I was wondering about things like power supply RF interference and weird stuff that I might not have taken into account when just looking at channels.
 

Paladin

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You mean they provide access to two physically separated networks?

Generally the way you would do this kind of thing is with VLANS.

If you can't do that kind of logical separation of networks and need to keep it physically separate that way, it's probably fine to have 2 access points (1 for each network) but based on simple physics, I would either not want them close, or I would want them essentially as close as possible. it depends on how reliable the channel configuration is and the quality of the hardware, the wifi version in use (newer ones are better at not stepping on each other and are more efficient).

But yeah, I would simply position them as far apart as you can given the design of the room and cabling and stuff, at least 6 feet or more just for all the other EM interference they probably generate, even if they are being respectful about their actual wifi transmissions.

If you can't do 6ft and it works ok, it's probably fine. The main issue I have see with wifi being 'too close' is client to AP not working at all because the fresnel zone is extremely small right next to the AP/client so the client can't get a reliable connection if it is within a foot or so.
 
But yeah, I would simply position them as far apart as you can given the design of the room and cabling and stuff, at least 6 feet or more just for all the other EM interference they probably generate, even if they are being respectful about their actual wifi transmissions.
That's what I wanted to hear. And yeah, I could likely accomplish this with VLANs, but I believe I'd need to replace at least one switch for that to work in this scenario. i.e. the VLANs already exist at the main router/gateway, but there's cheap unmanaged switches in between. It's on the radar for some future network upgrade, but it's not my highest priority.
 
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malor

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If they're well made, they shouldn't interfere with each other with that setup, but they're likely cheap consumer crap, and there's no way to know how good they actually are without some kind of meter and lengthy testing.

As both @Kyuu and @Paladin are suggesting, splitting them up even a little bit will reduce potential interference a bunch. The inverse square law is your friend. Even a foot or two will be much better than immediate adjacency. I would think six feet would reduce accidental interference to about zero, unless one of them is pathologically screwed up.
 
Generally the way you would do this kind of thing is with VLANS.
Some equipment upgrades later and this has indeed been done with one access point, and two VLANS. With some furniture moves, the access point is also now inches from the ceiling, so that's a nice bonus. Thanks all.
 

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Ok, so after the fact:

You’re probably fine. But you could try a test where you run at max bandwidth over one, and then see if that drops if you start doing the same over the other.

I can tell you that interference is real, with my bluetooth mouse becoming pretty much useless with much data going to the access point 30 cm away from it at 2.4 GHz. (Many years ago.) But BT frequency hopping and 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi clash more than two reasonably separate 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi channels. Note the channels 1, 6, 11 thing is not 100% correct, there is still some overlap. If you’re in Europe, 1, 7, 13 is better. Or if you only need two channels, 1 and 11 or 3 and 10 or 1 and 8 or something.

On 5 GHz the channels don’t really overlap.

If interference is a serious problem, it might be better to run the different APs on the same channel, as this way the carrier sense logic will work as needed and the different networks will share the one channel running at maximum speed, while if they’re different channels but with some overlap and thus interference, they may not see enough activity to wait transmitting, but it might be enough for the reception to be unsuccessful and it has to be retried at a lower speed.