Realtek RTL9303 (cheaper 5GbE on the way)

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Looks like more affordable 5 gigabit ethernet switches on the way at last, aiming for under $20/port.

But Realtek is planning on tackling the issue from both ends, as the company is preparing a hardware platform for sub-$100 5GbE switches.

Realtek’s quad-port 5GbE switch platform consists of five key chips: one RTL9303 switch system-on-chip, and four RTL8251B 5GbE physical interfaces (PHYs). The chips are accompanied by various other components, such as power management ICs, but in general it relies solely on in-house developed components, which is why it can be made so cheap.
 

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Will these support PoE?
PoE support is decoupled from the Ethernet part. Whoever is building the switches gets to decide if they want to add the power electronics needed for PoE in front of the ASICs.

Just like how there's Gigabit Ethernet on almost everything now. 10/100 as a choice still exists

Broadcom dropped 10Mbps support in many (most?) of their ASICs years ago. Most new gear today is physically incapable of 10Mbps operation.
 
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PoE support is decoupled from the Ethernet part. Whoever is building the switches gets to decide if they want to add the power electronics needed for PoE in front of the ASICs.
This is what I was looking for, if PoE electronics were part of say RTL8251B or if it was a separate component in between the physical port traces and that chip.
 

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If you wanted to build a managed switch that monitored PoE status/power usage, wouldn't that need to be designed into the RTL9303 SoC? Or is that generic enough that the switch vendor could map a couple GPIO pins (assuming the SoC has some available) to the PoE chips' status lines and then implement it in firmware?
 

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There are already managed switches with 2.5Gbit for around $10-12 a port (not name brand but still...) and PoE for not too much more I think. The NIC for a PC is probably more expensive because of the different cost density and different support costs, driver/software development, etc.

As for what switch makers actually do and pay for all that, who knows? It probably varies a lot between companies based on their costs for the final product (support and marketing and other costs that change a lot between different brands that target different markets).
 
Looks like the power/heat divide still seems to be between 1Gb/2.5Gb on the cool side and 5Gb/10Gb on the hot side. The 5Gb wattage improvements seem to be tracking with improvements I've seen in 10GBaseT modules (this new 5Gb says 1.7W, the newest 10Gb module I've seen says 1.8W). 2.5Gb is around maybe 0.3W these days? I'm assuming there's something inherent in 5Gb that makes it more similar to 10Gb, in terms of power? If so, 5Gb still seems neither here nor there to me.