Dumb confirmation: all ISO ThinkPad keyboards are the same, right?

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    My new gig provides laptops through some leasing company. I'm in Spain, and they have some laptops with .es keyboards, but they offer a greater selection with "English" and "German" keyboards.

    I'm confirming with them whether "English" means US or UK.

    I don't really mind what's printed in the keys, but I do mind ANSI ("wide" return key) vs ISO ("tall" return key). The Spanish layout does not work well in ANSI (< and > are very hidden), and I use an ISO keyboard all day (with .es layout and mapping)... and it drives me batty to switch layouts. (In fact, I'll be getting a Thinkpad to match my personal Thinkpad- I'm used to matching laptop keyboards and it's great).

    So if I confirm their "English" keyboards are UK, getting an English or German-keyboard laptop should mean ISO layout, and on a modern ThinkPad, it should match an X1 Carbon Gen 3 Spanish keyboard, right?
     
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    koala said:
    and on a modern ThinkPad, it should match an X1 Carbon Gen 3 Spanish keyboard, right?
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    No clue but I doubt it, at least not that far back (is that pre-chiclet?). I know the past few generations the top cover itself is different between ANSI and ISO layouts (at least I can't feel any seams in my gen 9!). Lenovo is good about hardware maintenance manuals/service manuals so maybe see if those provide any clues, from the relevant generations you're looking at/looking at parts for?
     
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    As I won't own this laptop, I'd rather not do a swap. Even if I owned it, I'm a bit of a klutz, so... given that I don't really mind what's printed on the letters, I wouldn't do it either, I think.

    The gen 3 is chiclet. And for me it's indistinguishable from my previous work's T490s.

    I was concerned qwertz could be a problem in the BIOS or whatever, or that the .de layout had some extra weirdness... but I guess not?
     
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    Well, update- apparently the company doing the renting has a Spanish branch that we must use. They just have an E14 with Spanish keyboard, and a T14s with "English" keyboard. And customer support mentioned that "English" keyboards are ANSI. That model is a 21BR0066MH. I'm wondering if a keyboard swap is an option- although the Lenovo parts search only shows the same model of keyboard for that model.

    (Lots of people in Spain bite the bullet and use ANSI keyboards with the US software layout, which is nice because most technical stuff is designed for US. But then, they can't write correct Spanish... I should learn how to use the compose key, I guess, but I'm lazy.)
     
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