Garmin Venu 3 - Initial Review and First Thoughts

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Hello again, to you poor souls coming to my review hoping for useful information, and instead getting my extremely biased opinion. As with all my reviews, I'll focus on the things I care about, as opposed to a quantitative, unbiased and standardized review... because other people do that better (Shout out to DC Rainmaker! This guy is even fit. I bet he actually uses all the fancy fitness features), or has an actual pedigree of reviews (Ars hasn't actually reviewed this one, but the Forerunner isn't thaaaat different). But at the very least, I'll try to make my thoughts entertaining, and accessible... and as always, I am open to trying anything and almost everything you want me to (This thing is like $600 CAD, I'm not agreeing to everything).

As I'm feeling exceptionally lazy, you will not be getting any photos at this time. Please direct any and all complaints to my agent.
Edit: It seemed wrong to post a review without photos, so I guilted myself into it.

So what hardware have I managed to convince myself into acquiring this time? A Smartwatch! Of sorts. Some would disagree, saying that the Garmin device's are not smart enough. Others, that they are fitness accessories. But in my mind, I was shopping and comparing it to smartwatches, and that's how I'm using it, so it's a smartwatch. This will be my second smartwatch, after the original Moto360. Needless to say... it's been a while, and the landscape has changed. (And yet, has stayed so very much the same).

As for the device... Drumroll please... I decided to go with a Garmin Venu 3.
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The latest in Garmin's Venu line, this smartwatch strives to strike a balance between fitness, and something your wife might actually let you wear to dinner. With a 45mm face, it's of size and thickness to any of my normal watches, and as you can see fits fairly well in amongst it's more mechanical brethren in the watch box (Note: I don't actually keep the smartwatch in the watchbox, who do you think I am?)
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(Right to Left: Bespoke Wilk's Watchworks 44mm, Michael Kors, Garmin Venu 3, Timex Expedition (Looks kinda lonely eh), Cheap Nautica, Ancient Guess (If anyone can actually get this thing to show the right time, hit me up)

It does pretty well on the thickness side too:
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A bit of a bulge because of the heart rate sensor, but overall not bad at all.

So now, dear reader, you're likely wondering how someone who was a bleeding edge adopter with a Moto360, ended up with a "Almost not a real smartwatch" Garmin Venu 3. Well, it took some soul searching let me tell you. Smartwatches, by their very nature, are devices that (IMO), we don't really need. They tell time like a watch I already have, or my smartphone. They show my messages, like my smartphone. And they cost a shit ton, for the most part.

And every time I tried to pull the trigger on a Pixel Watch, or a Galaxy Watch, or any other smartwatch... I just couldn't get past "Why am I really buying this? What value do I get?". Which brings me to Garmin.

Garmin doesn't advertise showing you your messages, or keeping you connected. This watch doesn't even have LTE! But it has a best in class heart rate sensor, a Pulse Oximeter/ SPO2 sensor that probably isn't telling me anything useful, reminders to drink some water and get off my lazy butt, and tracks my fitness. It's also a $600 CAD commitment that I bought this damn thing so I better get going to the gym. Or around the block. Or even just drop and do a push-up.

And that's what my soul searching really opened my eyes to. I really don't care about smartwatches. But a device that can help me be more fit, and encourage me to improve my lifestyle? Now that, is a selling feature.

With the gooey stuff out of the way, let's get to the review. At this point I've had the watch for 6 days. As mentioned above, it comes with Garmin's most recent Heart Rate sensor (Elevate V5):
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It also has GPS, Bluetooth/Wi-Fi, a microphone and a speaker. I can download Spotify playlists, connect my earbuds, and head to the gym without my phone. I won't get any messages, or notifications... because I'll be out of BT range of my phone... but I'm honestly not sure if that's a bug or a hidden feature.
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Photo of the speaker / microphone

Garmin also has world class leading battery life. I charged the thing Friday, when the battery life hit 25%. I likely could have made it the full 8 days advertised, and that includes keeping the (probably unreliable and definitely uncertified) Pulse Oximeter sensor running all night, so it can warn me if my wife accidentally put the pillow on my head.

In terms of hardware quality, the watch is super comfortable. A major advertised feature is sleep tracking, and for those who haven't followed my Lounge adventures, I currently have a 7 week old newborn at home. Needless to say, I was intrigued at what it would say, but worried that wearing a watch would be extremely uncomfortable to sleep with. Well, while it was definitely novel, it didn't take long to get used to and now I can definitively prove that yes, I am not getting enough sleep, and when I do sleep, the sleep I am getting is constantly interrupted.

Back to build quality: The body is a type of plastic / polycarbonate. It's very solid. The bezel is metal, which is good because that's what actually hits things when your watch hits the wall, radiator, car door, banister, or any other hard object in your house. (Not that I'd know, of course). There are three solid metal buttons on the side, and the band is a silicone, and is fine. It fits nicely, the graduations are enough that you can get comfortably snug without being tight, and because it's a standard 22mm band I plan to pick up a leather option for date night.
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Side profile. Note metal buttons, metal bezel, and polycarbonate frame

With all that being said, it's only been a week. I look forward to a few more workouts (so far I've only tried the Squash activity), some travel in the next few weeks (It has a Jet Lag advisor!!!!), and hopefully a good nights sleep in a hotel.

Please let me know if there are any specific things you want me to talk about to review. Otherwise, stay tuned for the wacky adventures to follow!
 

steelghost

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Smartwatches, by their very nature, are devices that (IMO), we don't really need. They tell time like a watch I already have, or my smartphone. They show my messages, like my smartphone. And they cost a shit ton, for the most part.

And every time I tried to pull the trigger on a Pixel Watch, or a Galaxy Watch, or any other smartwatch... I just couldn't get past "Why am I really buying this? What value do I get?". Which brings me to Garmin.

Garmin doesn't advertise showing you your messages, or keeping you connected. This watch doesn't even have LTE! But it has a best in class heart rate sensor, a Pulse Oximeter/ SPO2 sensor that probably isn't telling me anything useful, reminders to drink some water and get off my lazy butt, and tracks my fitness. It's also a $600 CAD commitment that I bought this damn thing so I better get going to the gym. Or around the block. Or even just drop and do a push-up.

And that's what my soul searching really opened my eyes to. I really don't care about smartwatches. But a device that can help me be more fit, and encourage me to improve my lifestyle? Now that, is a selling feature.
Thanks for taking time to post your thoughts. I feel pretty similarly about smartwatches, I don't think they do enough to justify their existence to me, as a watch. But as a fitness tracker, maybe, perhaps. Still probably not £400 worth, but I can see it better.

The other thing that puts me off is the battery life, not so much when new but after 2, 3, 5 years. Be interested to see how you go on.
My normal wrist watch is a Seiko Kinetic Titanium that is about 20 years old and still going. I'm unlikely to get 20 years out of a smartwatch and that also weighs in my decision to steer clear, at least for now.
 

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a Pulse Oximeter/ SPO2 sensor that probably isn't telling me anything useful
I have the Venu 2 and it definitely is accurate. First time I flew with it I was like, seriously, did it just drop to 92?

Turns out it is a thing, cabin altitude correlates with SpO2. Good to know, plus good to know it works quick and reliably.


The health features are amazing. I'm sick in bed and I can monitor my stats 24/7 and logged for review later via stress (hrv), SpO2 to see if it becomes an emergency and heart rate. Heart rate works as fever meter but even works while taking max dose acetaminophen / ibuprofen, when these kill the fever says the thermometer, but you're still working hard. Sleeping HR 110 instead of 60 or lower = yeah you're not resting while sleeping.


Sadly my 7d trend is not improving much, going up and down so I'm getting an doctors appointment first thing tomorrow. They can't do much about viral upper respiratory tract infection anyway but it seems to have moved past that, maybe secondary bacterial now. With the Garmin I feel more secure just waiting it out and you can see it improving, or not.



Other than as a health tracker it's basically a notification machine for me. I tend to miss vibrations from Android for calls and messages, but the bzzt on my wrist is unmissable. Love that it works 8+ days on a charge and you can keep even pulse ox enabled, without you get a day or two extra.
 

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I don't use any of the health related features on my Samsung watch (Galaxy Watch 6 Classic 47mm) other than the basic step/exercise tracking. It has mainly replaced the notification features on my phone and I love it for that. Not having to have my phone on me constantly is nice, not having to pick it up to look at every buzz or beep is nice. I can see and send basic replies to almost everything I might worry about and do basic music playback control etc. The variety of available watch faces and their customizability is nice too.

Initially I saw no need for a smartwatch but after being given one as a prize at work, and finally trying it out after a year or more of it sitting on my desk, I loved how much it frees me from my phone and makes me more motivated to move around during the day, etc. The easy access to time and date and weather info is nice too but you can get most of that from almost any decent traditional watch. I had nice watches my wife had given me before but I saw them more as fashion accessory where the 3 samsung smartwatches I have had have been real improvements in my life.
 

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Ironically, I care zero about health tracking/fitness tracking-- how, if at all, does it handle notifications?
Bzzt. Oh it can also make sound but I have that disabled.

You can see the basics, short text description, icon for common apps, but nothing fancy. Good enough to determine ignore or check phone.
 

pasorrijer

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Apologies about the delay! On the plus side, I have lots of opinions now.

Firstly, to answer the replies:


I can see and send basic replies to almost everything I might worry about and do basic music playback control etc. The variety of available watch faces and their customizability is nice too.
Yes, the Venu3 has all of this. You can also download Spotify to it, and use it offline. Or, it has both a microphone and a speaker, so if you get a call working out within range of your phone, you can answer and it sounds like a decent speakerphone.

There's a number of watch faces, widgets, and data tracking things in their store (more on that in a second), and Garmin also has an astoundingly well documented developer API if you want to develop your own stuff. If I had free time, I'd totally look into it. Alas, instead i spend my free time here.


how, if at all, does it handle notifications?
It handles notifications very well. Clearly identifies the app, the notification, the Venu3 also will download media such as pictures, and you can reply either with canned replies or a hilariously small T9 keyboard. It sounds like it shouldn't work, but it's surprisingly slick.

Now for the fun stuff. A review of the software, followed by my 90 day thoughts.



Software

The software on the Garmin can be broken down into three sections, which, is what we're going to do. There's the on-device software (Which will call Watch OS), the app that runs on your phone and connects to the watch (Garmin Connect), and the store app, where you download apps, watch faces, data fields, and other goodies (Garmin Connect IQ).


Garmin Watch OS

The actual Watch OS is pretty slick. It's fast, battery life is great, and it is fairly customizable. I've left the feature on where if you look at your watch the screen turns on, and if you look away / tilt your wrist it turns off, and I'd say it mostly just works.

On this model, there are three physical buttons and a touchscreen. Input is a combination of both, and in some cases (such as swimming), the watch automatically disables the touchscreen, which was neat.... once I figured it out. Others like DC Rainmaker give a full review, but the gist is it works better than Android, with fewer bugs. Software updates install promptly, and are fairly rare, and aside from slow sync times, you can do almost everything on the watch that you can do in the app, although some things are easier in the app



Garmin Connect

Next up is Garmin Connect. This is the app on the phone that you use to view all your tracking details, that collects all the statistics, allows you to program a number of things, load apps, and otherwise connect your watch to the outside world. The new beta view seems more intuitive, but as a new user, the original UX was staggering, confusing, and took me a while of opening menus to figure out how to do stuff. Note that I don't blame this on Garmin, there is just a TON of things you can configure, set, and otherwise manipulate... and the associated screens for that complexity.

It's pretty neat though. The graphs and data are clear and easy to read, they allow you to tailor workouts, and all sorts of other goodies.



Garmin Connect IQ

Last but not least, Garmin Connect IQ. This was also very confusing. Why do I need to download a separate app for the store?? Why isn't this just built into the main app?

My guess is that this way they sandbox the personal data, from the internet-y bits, but who knows. Regardless, I didn't find the store particularly compelling. Some neat watch faces to purchase, as well as data fields (You can write custom fields to interpret and translate the sensors in the watch), but I've found that the watch mostly already has everything I want on it, so I haven't needed to use this.



90 Day Thoughts

And now for the fun stuff. 90 days in, do I have regrets? Not in the least. I wear it everyday, all day, even to sleep... which I figured I'd find annoying. The data is useful, although sometimes hilarious (I have a 4 month old, yes, I need more sleep... You can stop telling me).

It is great at tracking workouts, and even though I am primarily using it for fitness tracking, as @Paladin said it has definitely reduced my dependence on my smartphone. However, Bluetooth range isn't great. Unsure if that's the watch, the Pixel 8, the slat and plaster walls, or some combination thereof

Now, I have occasionally had some irritation from the strap, likely from wearing it 24/7. And while it's the most fashionable of the Garmin line, it's still not the most fashionable. It'd be cool to have a device that's identical but without the screen, to be worn as a bicep strap or bracelet for those days I want to wear a real watch... because the data is addictive. It's interesting watching which business meetings cause my heart rate to spike.

I'm excited to try the Jet Lag advisor on a few upcoming Europe trips, so we'll see how that goes. Aside from that, I'm overall happy. Battery life continues to be great, and we will see a year / 2 / 4 in how it goes!
 

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Someone asked if the Garmin noticed the new 👶, yup, the body battery gauge picked him up.

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Before the little guy is born -> no sleep -> zzz recharge for 24h in the hospital -> oh shit he's mine now -> slow recovery while taking time off work. Nowadays I peak between 50 to 75 depending on how fuzzy he is at night and low is still zero.

Stress on the other hand didn't spike, the big peaks are when I run a fever so I basically have a gauge for when I should take some more paracetamol and go visit the doctor if it persists for a week.
 

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Just tacking on my own experience with a new Garmin I just picked up last week. I feel like I kind of went the opposite direction as you did with your Moto360 > Garmin Venu 3; instead I went with a FitBit Versa 3 > Garmin Instinct 2. I needed more fitness tracking and wanted less "smart" watch. I feel like the Instinct 2 was the right choice.

Other than some minor details between watch features, I feel like your review above completely reflects what I'd have to say about my watch. I will note that I found FitBit's app to be better only in the sense that it integrates better with other things. For example I have a scale that sends my weight and other stats to the FitBit app - I cannot do this with Garmin Connect. In fact, that's my only complaint about the watch is that the accompanying software is terrible in terms of integrations. It's Strava, MyFitnessPal, or bust, basically. (There's a few other apps it integrates with, but it's very limited).

The watch itself is practically exactly what I was looking for. It's a Baby G-Shock watch from Casio mixed with the fitness tracking features that Garmin is so well known for being good at. But first and foremost this is a rugged watch, with all of the smartwatch features being secondary. I also like that I seem to be getting about 14 days with regular daily activity tracking. I have only had my watch for a week, and it still says 5 days left (I'm currently on day 8 from a full charge) with at least 1.5 hour of outdoor physical activity tracked per week day (road biking, beach volleyball, runs, a 4 hour hike, and ultimate frisbee).

For the last week, I've also been wearing both my Fitbit and Garmin on both wrists (Garming left, Fitbit right), to directly compare them. I'll swap wrists next week. But I found that the Fitbit's numbersa are higher than the Garmin's, except for resting heartrate and pulse ox. I'm curious to see if that trend continues next week when I swap wrists.
 
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