Microcenter 7800X3D questions

Oh, you seem to be running circuit design tools. I think in that case the potential impact of a huge cache is determined by the size/complexity of the specific designs you are working with.

If a good ole' 3770K was sufficient for you, then I suspect your workloads are small enough that the X3D cache doesn't make much of a difference. On the plus side, you don't have to care much for low latency RAM, either.

3xHastur said:

1) Is Gigabyte still a good brand?

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They just melted 7800X3D CPUs by running VSoC too high. Their over current protection kicked in and saved their boards (Asus's didn't). That whole mess should be behind us now, but make sure the board's BIOS is updated before using the CPU.

3) Any gotchas with using "unsupported RAM"?

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The 7800X3D is less RAM sensitive than the non-vcache models. Should be ok.

I know the GPU needs updating and I should also get a NVMe

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Yes, and yes.

The X3d processors L3 cache should help game speed later on in Stellaris. Cities: Skylines should also be able to support higher populations before slowing down. Not much stands out otherwise.

Don't worry too much about "unsupported" RAM. If it was an issue with that setup, it probably wouldn't be sold together. Unless you're planning on OCing, but if you're like me and think OCing is too much of a pain and just want to run it at its XMP speed, then you'll be fine.

Personally I like Gigabyte as a brand, my previous two computers had Gigabyte mobos, never had major issues, and one of those did have the vulnerability which is patched. ASRock on the other hand, I've had really weird annoying issues with.


For $500 for the combo, I don't think you can get a more price/performance combo out there. That said, I got baited into upgrading a year early due to MC's 7950X3D bundle that they had for $800...

The bullying is entirely deserved. You're still running a Radeon RX Vega 56.

Hangfire said:

The bullying is entirely deserved. You're still running a Radeon RX Vega 56.

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Hey, I own one of those, too. It's doing duty in a friend's PC, driving a FullHD 60Hz display with few complaints. No doubt it'll be replaced at some point in the future, but right now the pain is not yet severe enough.

hobold said:

Hey, I own one of those, too. It's doing duty in a friend's PC, driving a FullHD 60Hz display with few complaints. No doubt it'll be replaced at some point in the future, but right now the pain is not yet severe enough.

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hey that's fair but the 7800X3D has an onboard GPU that's better featured and has more modern drivers vs the legacy drivers he's running right now. He's literally bluescreening himself right now with the current graphics card on that system

I'm just looking forward to the decision as to whether to play R6:Siege @ 50FPS on low settings with the onboard graphics vs 60FPS (he doesn't have a high-refresh rate monitor) on the Vega 56, but with added bluescreen.

My game box is running a MicroCenter 7800X3D.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Raphael AM5 4.2GHz 8-Core Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S, Premium CPU Cooler with NF-A14 PWM 140mm Fan (Brown)
Mobo: ASRock B650E Taichi Lite AM5 DDR5 AMD B650E SATA 6Gb/s Extended ATX Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL Flare X5 Series AMD EXPO 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 Desktop Memory Model F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5

Through a long misadventure, I used that CPU with the following motherboards and RAM, before ending up with the above:

Mobo: ASRock X670E Steel Legend AM5 ATX Motherboard. 4xDDR5 slots, PCIE 5.0X16, AMD Cross Fire, QuadM.2 slots, Dual LAN ports 1GB and 2.5GB , WIFI-6E,7.1 HD audio, HDMI 2.1, DP 1.4 ports
Mobo: ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model F5-6000J3636F16GX2-RS5K

Note that the G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 vs. Flare X5 RAM was just a marketing gimmick. Both worked the same with the B650E chipset mobos. Unsupported RAM is more tightly linked to BIOS revision in the Memory QLV and how frequently the mobo manufacturer updates their QLVs. Buy RAM from a reputable manufacturer and don't sweat the difference between CL36 vs CL30.

So I started with an ASUS B650E mobo, cuz it was bundled with the CPU by MicroCenter. The Gigabyte 650E mobo wasn't an option at time of purchase. I found Asus' Support to be wanting.

I returned the ASUS mobo for the ASRock Steel Legend, which is a better looking mobo. (Don't ask.)

I eventually returned the Steel Legend for the ASRock Taichi Lite, which is technically a really good mobo, but not as fetching as the Steel Legend. The numeric debug display was an invaluable aid, if you're down into the bytes of the BIOS. However, be aware its an E-ATX format mobo for no good reason.

IMOHO, ASRock motherboards are better than both ASUS or Gigabyte. YMMV.

My advice? Buy the "Better" mobo that is bundled with the CPU at MicroCenter. I also recommend a 650E mobo, if you're wifi bound, for the extra throughput.

HTH