New and upcoming cooling releases (heatsink, fans, AIO)

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  • #1
    Maybe a meta thread will work, since previous discussions of individual products don't seem to have gotten much traction.

    ID Cooling SE 70-- dual 120mm fan tower cooler:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/id-co ... air-cooler

    280W rating or not, with it being just a dual tower, I'm not expecting it to beat the NH-D15, NH-D15S, or CNPS 20x... but it looks like it might compete with the Scythe Fuma 2?



    Previous discussions of new cooling:

    Thermalright Silver Arrow 130:
    viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1468782

    Silverstone Permafrost AIO:
    viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1468130
     
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    Thanks, I'd like to see more 120mm dual towers.

    Right now my Amazon.ca Cooler wishlist is mainly a Deepcool Gammax 400 and a Noctua D15S (since Arctic pricing went nuts), as there isn't much here that significantly beats the Gammaxx 400, that is significantly cheaper than the D15S, to logically fit between them.

    Right now the Scythe Fuma 2 seems to be the king of 120mm dual towers, but it's an import into Canada, and often costs as much, or more than a Noctua D15S.

    That Silver Arrow 130 is a tidy package, but who knows how decent it is until tested. It might not be much better than the Gammaxx 400.
     
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    Handy to have more compact options in that area, or it would be if it was available outside China and Japan! It looks like greater fin density will need to be compensated for by higher fan speed / static pressure.

    As an aside, when I was converting my 8700k box to air cooling, I ended up finding a used NH-D14 for less than the price of a new Hyper 212, and it handles the 135W output of that chip (albeit at a fairly tame 4.7 all core, 200Mhz AVX offset) without a problem. Modern air coolers have to compete against the champions of yesteryear as well as the current crop!
     
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    Roman Hartung (aka Der Bauer) has a good look at it: https://youtu.be/uOrUNT_0XVY

    Even at 5.6GHz the golden sample 10900k he is pumping 1.5V into can't match the single thread Cinebench R20 score of a humble 5600X :eek:

    (He gets 581, https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_bench ... gle_core-9 suggests the Zen 3 score should be a little over 600...)

    As Roman concludes, the TEC cooler (and associated control logic) is an impressive piece of engineering and cool (no pun intended!) to play with, but the power consumption is eyewatering.
     
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    https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cooling/ ... 12s-redux/

    Noctua NH-U12S Redux with extra NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM fan tested. AMD Ryzen 5950X testbed is the main thing that interested me. Sadly while they test it against a NH-U12A, they don’t have a NH-U12S original to test it against in their benchmarks, nor any 140mm towers like a NH-U14S or ideally a NH-D15 or CNPS 20X.
     
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    It's impressive how much performance they've been able to get out of that price point, but at least some of it is brute forcing it with more airflow (no harm in that as long as you have your fan curve set right).

    Of course in an age of easily and precisely configurable CPU power outputs, it's not so critical, but I can't help feeling that for a 5950x build if you needed to fit it into a more compact case that the NH-U12A could be justified.

    All that said, I think the U12 Redux fits better as an upgrade from the stock cooler in midrange systems where the user wants to let the CPU of the leash a bit, or they want a quieter cooling solution, or a bit of both. Plus as it uses the same mount as all other Noctua coolers, the chances are very good it would still be a useful cooler in a decade's time.
     
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    continuum said:
    https://www.newegg.com/p/2RM-001D-001D0
    https://www.fanlesstech.com/2021/06/noc ... -here.html


    Noctua NH-P1 discussed by steelghost above is now in stock and available at Newegg. Obviously not suitable for overclocking but I am very curious…
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    Newegg Listing was pulled soon after.

    These kind of things always interest me. Because they give great flexibility. Even overclocked you could run semi passive, where its dead silent with 0RPM until you reach a significant threshold.

    Has there been a report of the weight of this beast?
     
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    What is "an enclosure with good natural convection"? A case with lots of holes or one with high quality active ventilation via multiple intake and output fans with positive pressure?

    IMO, neither is particularly interesting. Lots of holes and no fans means dust, and if I have case fans I'm fine with a CPU fan too.

    Now if there was some way to expose the large heatsink directly to outside air while keeping the case itself sealed, that could be cool. A bunch of the YouTube tech channels had pieces on a motherboard with the CPU mount facing the rear recently, this heatsink would work with that.
     
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    rodalpho said:
    What is "an enclosure with good natural convection"?
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    They have a rated list of cases. It seems like a lot of the higher rated ones don't have a PSU in the bottom and instead have bottom intakes.

    I think I would have to be doing a case from scratch to go with this cooler, as similar to you it seems like it would be best in a thin case with the heatsink poking outside, or something like that.
     
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