Scales helped reptiles conquer the land—when did they first evolve?

Chuckstar

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One key thing here is that reptile scales are not homologous to fish scales, so reptiles didn’t just get scales from fish ancestors. Reptile scales form from the epidermis. Fish scales form from the dermis, and are more closely related to teeth and mammal hair than to they are to reptile scales.
 
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peterford

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Wonderful, deep time is an endless rabbit hole and I find this window and a little earlier (geologically speaking) especially amazing. For context on this 300Mya fossil

The Silurian-Devonian Terrestrial Revolution, also known as the Devonian Plant Explosion (DePE) and the Devonian explosion, was a period of rapid colonization, diversification and radiation of plants (embryophytes) and fungi on dry lands that occurred 428 to 359 million years ago (Mya) during the Silurian and Devonian periods, with the most critical phase occurring during the Late Silurian and Early Devonian.


Trace fossils of myriapods are known dating back to the late Ordovician (the geologic period preceding the Silurian), but P. newmani may be the earliest body fossil of a myriapod, if it had been dated at 428 million years ago (Silurian, late Wenlock epoch to early Ludlow epoch). However, if based on 414 million years ago (Early Devonian (Lochkovian)) estimated from Zircon age estimate, it cannot be called as the oldest myriapod, or the oldest of air-breathing terrestrial arthropods, because records from Kerrera (425 millions years ago) and Ludlow (420 millions years ago) become older than that.


What's especially cool for me is I'm from Devon and live near Wenlock.
And I'm a Silurian.
 
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vhoracek

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Wonderful, deep time is an endless rabbit hole and I find this window and a little earlier (geologically speaking) especially amazing. For context on this 300Mya fossil







What's especially cool for me is I'm from Devon and live near Wenlock.
And I'm a Silurian.
Lochkovian caught my eye; Lochkov is a stone's throw from where I live and I used to go fossil hunting for trilobites, graptolites and orthoceras quite often.
 
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But either way, “the epidermal scales in diadectids and other terrestrial tetrapods prevented the evaporation of water from their bodies in a dry environment,” Calábková noted, which may have helped them survive “the desert climate that prevailed on [the supercontinent of] Pangea during the Permian.”

TL;DR, but it's worth going through the rest of the article, as you'd expect from Ars.
 
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aaki

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I have doubts about how this is being reported here:

"Strikingly, these tail prints come complete with scale impressions—at 300 million years old, they’re among the earliest scale impressions we have. This may seem small, but it shows us that some of the hardened skin structures necessary for our ancestors to survive on land had evolved much earlier than previously suspected." ... what?

This is in Permian already, amniotic eggs are already common etc, this isn't that particularly early, certainly not for "surviving on land" to be anything at all novel for vertebrates at the time. And why would scales be anything odd after the Carboniferous rainforest collapse, climate has dried up and presumably that's why the, loosely speaking, reptile-like amniotes have become dominant over their other, again loosely speaking amphibian-like, tetrapod cousins, some millions of years prior to this? Far from much earlier than suspected, isn't this in fact exactly when you'd expect scales to appear?

The abstract seems to be saying something completely different from this article's perspective:

"... still unresolved question of whether the ability to form corneous skin appendages is an apomorphy of a common ancestor of amphibians and amniotes or evolved independently in both groups. ... The traces can be unambiguously attributed to diadectids and are interpreted as the globally first evidence of horned scales in tetrapods close to the origin of amniotes.Taking hitherto little-noticed scaly skin impressions of lepospondyl stem amniotes from the early Permian of Germany into account, the possibility has to be considered that the evolutionary origin of epidermal scales deeply roots among anamniotes."

Soo, the key thing is that these are scales on a lepospondyl, not an amniote! Its not just the age of the trace, but who left it that suggest the origin of these reptilian scales might be even older than amniotic eggs, which IS kinda surprising! But it still makes sense as we're seeing it in a group that is pretty close to amniotes.
 
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